Could LeBron do anything by the end of this season to become the GOAT, to you?

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LeBron took an irrelevant franchise to the promise land while Kobe rode the coattails of the most popular franchise.
LeBron won Finals MVP on three different teams to show his talent wasn't a fluke.
Kobe stayed in LA because he knew on any other team he'd be an tri-lingual Jimmy Butler.
So why did Kobe win more without Shaq than Shaq won without Kobe?
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Kobe won back to back, and 3 straight finals with this roster in the west...... LeBron had a stacked roster and won an AAU Tournament during covid.

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Gasol, Artest and Odom were elite defenders, veteran clutch pg, shooters all over r the court, greatest coach of all time what are we supposed to be looking at here? :skip:



Kobe isn’t in the same realm as LeBron any more and LeBron passed him definitively in 2016. Give it up :russ:
 

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If this dude ain’t the concensus goat by now, it aint much he can do. Him getting carried to a ring by Luka and Austin Reaves will not move the needle.
 
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No such thing as a Goat.

Always an entertaining conversation though... especially when objectivity goes out the window, which is almost impossible not to do with these types of conversations
 

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Why did Kobe win more championships without Shaq than Shaq won without Kobe? Why didn't Shaq win a championship until he played with Kobe?
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Because Shaq was old and was 33 years old when he won his last chip. Let’s talk about when they played together who was the best player when they played together. We saw that in real time :russ:

Shaq would have 4 finals MVPs if Kobe didn’t shot jack them out of the Pistons series. :skip:

.381 from the floor :scust:


Give. It. Up.
 

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In an all-time draft I’d most likely build a team around peak Jokic instead and nobody has done more for the sport of basketball than Michael Jordan.

I think overall dude is the best NBA player career-wise for totals, but never as definitive like Jordan was. I don’t even know if his peak is better than Jokic’s and for sure his off-court impact is nowhere near Jordan’s.

shyt, Nike dang near tanking. Now, that’s not LeBron’s fault, but dude clearly isn’t the same in the category from a marketing standpoint as Air Jordan either.

I think overall, when you consider the combined on and off the court, Jordan still clears.
 
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Can he erase the past?
How can winning a championship being a bus passenger to a Top 3 player in the league make him the GOAT? :dead:
lol dudes will claim Bron is a “bus passenger” to Luka averaging 25/9/9 on a team with 3 20ppg scorers, while also being a legit top 3 mvp candidate pre groin injury. But turn around and slob on Kobe’s meat for winning 5 rings when he was a literal 13 ppg role player scrub for the first one. Weird how Brons a bus driver but you guys didn’t run that narrative with Curry when he was winning at Brons expense.

That’s the problem with these threads and these arguments. You nikkas are disingenuous. Most of you are just fakkits overly attached to the past because your youth is gone, and you don’t like Bron because he’s a threat to what you came up with. There will always be a goalpost to move or an agenda to flip flop on. Just say you don’t like breh and keep it pushing.
 

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I prefer peak of longevity so no but if you argue he’s the goat I will not argue against it. Him Kareem and Jordan, you get no argument from me.
 
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