Could you kill baby Hitler [Poll added]

[PoPimp84]

Whole senerio sounds like the plot from Looper.

 

[Urbanmiracle]

Europe and the far east was a powder keg ready to explode. You still had countries like Germany and Hungary still salty from the Treaty of Versailles and you had Japan which its eyes on Russian and Chinese ports. Then you had the war between Europeans slicing up Africa like a pizza.

Honestly, as a US citizen, its a "good" thing Hitler did what he did. Without WW2 and Hitler's Holocaust, no Operation Paperclip in which we transported Europe's brightest out of the warzone into the safe arms of top US universities that allowed them to continued their sciences unabated by the war. No Manhattan project which leads to no atomic bomb which leads to no feasible way to defeat Japan ( they were coming for us eventually. The US fleet was right over the Pacific and they would give us a look over as they started taking over islands leading closer to the US. Pearl Harbor was them thinking they caught us sleeping) and no NASA and no Space Race.

 

[CHL]

Nahh Id just wait til he gets older and take him in back of a shed

That didn't come out right

 

[Tate]

When did American empire become a good thing? Why is American empire worth the life of 6 million Jews?

 

[Solomon Caine]

I couldn't kill an adult Hitler, let alone a baby one. Way I see it, he never harmed anyone that looked like me. Let the Europeans have their karma.

 

[Tate]

I couldn't kill an adult Hitler, let alone a baby one. Way I see it, he never harmed anyone that looked like me. Let the Europeans have their karma.

Negged for being stupid and ahistorical

Persecution of black people in Nazi Germany - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/mobile/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005479

 

[Dirty Mcdrawz]

Don't think I could do it

i don't get the reference

 

[Solomon Caine]

Negged for being stupid and ahistorical

Persecution of black people in Nazi Germany - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Blacks during the Holocaust

Really?? You think I'm gonna take an account of the situation from some salty European or Jew. I have read books and heard hundreds of dudes speeches, never heard him or his henchmen mention black people.

Maybe we should show case pictures of black Nazi soldiers, or how Hitler greeted the black runner from the U.S and pretend that the Germans where good to blacks at a time where blacks where treated horribly in the U.S. I won't do that because no one can really confirm or verify any of that stuff. So please save me the anti Nazi propaganda. I've seen enough of it on Nat Geo and History Channel.

 

[FaTaL]

Even if you kill him the movement was going to happen

The resentment of the Jews would of always been there

 

[Renkz]

i don't get the reference

From the tv show lost, the middle eastern man gets transported in the past and sees the kid who would end up growing up to be the man that ruins his life, and with no hesitant, he shoots kid.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

Got me

Ok yeah my whole answer is indeed based on the interpretation of "Would you kil baby Hitler KNOWING WHAT HE DID AFTER", to which I answer no because the hypothetical question ("Would you kill baby Hitler") does NOT adress anything else. Meaning, the ONLY thing that changed in that historical context is that Hitler does not exist. I argue that in the grand scheme of things, killing baby HItler does not change that much, because he is the product of his environment. Thus, if you don't change the environment, killing baby Hitler or not doesn't make that much of a difference.

The things that led to Hitler's rise

- Nationalism
- Antisemitism
-"Scientific" racism (these three points were everywhere in Europe)
- Pangermanism
- German thirst for revenge post Versailles Treaty
- German historical "continental" colonialism (as opposed to France's, GB's and Netherland's "overseas" colonialism)
- German's conception of nationality ("by way of blood" meaning is German who is born of German parents, as opposed to "by way of land" as in France, meaning is French who is born on French soil)

all pervade Hitler and Nazis.

Fair enough. You are of a pure heart. Thanks for entertaining my BS

 

[ThaRealness]

No space program

no iPhones

no american hegemony

Alright you just listed 3 things...


None of these 3 things are particularly beneficial to humanity, so what's your point?

 

[tru_m.a.c]

Not at all. It's more "Hitler got to live, impacted History the way he did and I'm here". But nice post, got a few daps from it too

Objectively, killing Hitler would be pointless because he was more of a catalyst than anything else. Antisemitism, fascism, the Franco-German hate etc. were already there and he was simply the match that lighted it up. There is no proof that killing him would have stopped the Holocaust (though, there is no proof that it wouldn't have either of course). I know Hitler is the boogeyman of the 20th century but he's not the only boogeyman that has ever lived in Human history. Why stopping at Hitler ? Why not Napoleon ? Why not Hannibal ? Genghis Khan ? Alexander the Great ? Attila ? History has seen and will always see conquerors/generals who kill/ed millions whatever their ideology was/is/will be and regardless of the legitimacy of their cause (we are either on the bad or the good side of History and fortunately, we the West have been in on the good one in the 20th century)

And really, going back in time to kill Hitler is at best arbitrary and has little to no legitimacy. Realistically, it would even be unfair to every casualties that happened before him and that were caused by other "boogeymen" (let alone every little/regional/local conflicts and other less deadly events...). Seriously, how would one justify killing Hitler over Attila ? Over Genghis Khan ? And if you say "well, it's because he lived in the 20th Century". Well then, why not Pol Pot ? Why not Stalin ? Are the humans killed by Hitler/the Nazis and during WWII worth more than those killed in every other eras of History ? And even if the reason to kill Hitler is legit, how do you know that killing Hitler wouldn't have birthed an even more demonic person and resulting in a even bigger body count ?

Ultimately, what happened happened and that's why I said that out of selfishness, I wouldn't kill him. It may be cynical but there's no reason to change the past. We can only learn from it to avoid making the same mistakes. Mistakes that we will still make either way in the future, that's how Humanity is

Great post fam. Well thought out imo.

Thanks for seeing my post as a lighthearted jab . I think some people actually think I'm a heartless blood thirsty poster after this thread.

 

[Dr. Sebi Jr.]

We need a Black Baby Hitler.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

We need a Black Baby Hitler.

I spit my beer out