COURT DOCS & PROOF: T.I. Did Not Snitch to Get a Reduced Sentence in His 2007 Gun Case

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I have stated in this and OTHER threads that it's documented that right after he got his charges there were large high level busts in Atl...do you all watch any of the FED shows??? After they get you they tell you to give them someone else in the game to help YOURSELF

I'm still waiting for you to tell me who specifically he snitched on

 

[bigrodthe1]

TI got arrested October 2007...looks like he didn't like the Esai's

By: BRENNAN LEATHERS
12/11/2007
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A Bainbridge police officer participated in two large-scale operations coordinated by the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency in the Atlanta metropolitan area, according to a news release.

Bainbridge Public Safety Chief Investigator Frank Green, who is also a Deputy DEA agent for Southwest Georgia, went to Atlanta last week as part of two operations, which seized large amounts of illegal drugs, millions of dollars in cash and at least 32 firearms, including handguns and assault rifles, City Manager Chris Hobby confirmed Wednesday.

Federal, state and local agents completed the initial searches and arrests in two multi-jurisdictional, multi-agency investigations coordinated through the Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Forces (OCDETF) program.

The investigations targeted major Mexican drug trafficking organizations that smuggled cocaine, methamphetamine and marijuana into the United States for distribution in Georgia, California, North Carolina, New York and elsewhere. These investigations focused on two separate Mexican-based drug organizations that regularly cooperated in using transportation routes into and out of the Atlanta area.

Hobby said the DEA operations took illegal drugs and related money and firearms off the streets permanently, keeping them out of their destination points, even small cities like Bainbridge.

"We're very supportive of the work Frank has done with the DEA," Hobby said. "Generally what we get here locally we think of as small players. It's good when we get to strike a blow at the big guys."

The evidence seized during the searches and arrests just over the past two days includes 111 kilograms of cocaine, 17 pounds of crystal methamphetamine, approximately $8 million to $10 million in cash and at least 32 firearms, including handguns and assault rifles. The two operations, begun in 2006, have resulted in the arrest of 47 people, many of them Mexicans living in the Atlanta area, and the execution of 245 search warrants.

Investigators determined that the targeted organizations regularly transported large quantities of cocaine, methamphetamine and marijuana from the Mexican states of Nuevo Leon, Guerrero, and Michoacan to the Atlanta area, and then transported currency accumulated from the sale of the drugs back through Atlanta to be smuggled across the southwest border to Mexico.

http://accesswdun.com/article/2008/10/214733
UNDATED - Federal agents have arrested suspects in Habersham, Barrow and Gwinnett counties as part of an operation to take down a multi-state Mexican drug cartel.

At least six North Georgia suspects are among the 41 people charged in connection with the large-scale drug distribution and money laundering scheme that operates in North Georgia and South Texas.

"The organization operated primarily trafficking narcotics from the border here to Atlanta for distribution throughout the Southeast and the East Coast, and then moving the proceeds of that activity back to Mexico," said Ken Smith, a Special Agent in Charge for the United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

Federal investigators have identified the North Georgia suspects as: Salvador Marillo, 42, of Cornelia; Gilberto Almanza aka "El Comandante," 44, of Lithonia; Roberto Ciriacio, 39, of Lawrenceville; Luz Marina, 39, of Auburn; Natalia Bedoya, 23, of Lawrenceville; and Roberto Noe Garcia aka "Roberto Robles," 38, of Lawrenceville.

Smith said $22 million has been seized from the organization since the investigation began in November 2006. He said that's a record amount for an Atlanta case.

"Any time that you can seize that amount of money from an organization it can put a significant dent in their operation," Smith said.

Agents said the alleged members now face long sentences in federal prison if convicted.

LARGEST METHAMPHETAMINE BUST EVER IN THE EASTERN USA


ATLANTA - Federal officials on Monday announced a "record-breaking seizure" of crystal methamphetamine buried in the back yard of a suburban home that they say was operated by a Mexican-based drug ring.

Drug Enforcement Administration agents found 187 1/2 pounds of suspected meth and 41 1-kilo bricks - just over 90 pounds - of suspected cocaine during a search last week, said Sherri Strange, special agent in charge of the Drug Enforcement Agency's Atlanta office.

She called it the third largest meth seizure in the U.S. this year, with an estimated total street value of $25 million to $50 million.

"Atlanta continues to be a hub for meth distribution in the Southeast," Strange said.

Four men have been charged with possession with intent to distribute methamphetamine and cocaine: Eduardo Castro Torres, 43, of Michoacan, Mexico, also a resident of California; Julio Ruesga Barajas, 28, of Santa Ana, Calif.; Ignacio Castro Torres, 39, of Buford, Ga.; and Enrique Medina, 25, of Madalena, Mexico. All four were at the home in Buford at the time of the seizure. Buford is 33 miles northeast of Atlanta.

A notebook found in a hidden compartment of a Nissan Quest found on the premises is believed to detail transactions involving large quantities of meth and cocaine.

Strange said the agents were watching the house Wednesday and saw two of the men uncovering something in the backyard. The cache was hidden in duffel bags inside 55-gallon trash cans that were buried so that the tops were flush with the ground.

She called the case unique because the house itself was pretty "clean" - everything was hidden outside.

Law enforcement officials found a money counter and digital scales buried in a Rubbermaid container next to the garage. Inside the garage, they found $30,000 in cash wrapped in a clear plastic vacuum-sealed bag.

Officials said the operation in Buford was part of a Mexican drug ring that imports and distributes multi-kilogram quantities of meth and cocaine from Mexico by moving it through California and Texas to points throughout the U.S.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Bill Thomas said the seizure "underscores the increasing significance that Atlanta plays in the world of drug trafficking.

a lot of meth...funny that Tip got busted in LA with Meth

 

[bigrodthe1]

I'm still waiting for you to tell me who specifically he snitched on

Everybody he could

 

[Sccit]

Good news for ogcm

 

[re'up]

I am of the mind that there is something buried in his PSR and sentencing conditions that he doesn't want revealed......but the timeline of all those arrests doesn't add up at all. Without reading the article I know those ar elong terms 18 month investigations, and I confirmed by reading 2006 is when they started. You are talking cooperating witnesses, informants, wiretaps and interception, by the time T.I was arrested warrants and indictments were already ready to go, and they were just waiting to serve the arrest/search warrants. Which also is assuming T.I could bring down trans national trafficking crews based out of Mexican states as far away as Guerrero, which is borderline absurd.

But yeah, the timing is all off. Now, when a mid level or low level guy goes down, and he knows it's game over, a lot of these guys will start talking right away. Get arrested at 6:00 AM on a sealed indictment, decide to play ball, and you make those calls, and knock three people down before you go in. Now, you have established a relationship, and continue to cooperate up and until you are sentenced. A guy like T.I? He may have cards to play, he's going to lawyer up bail out, and start seeing what his options are. If there was cooperation, it would likely begin just before, and after his guilty plea, which was in May of 2008.

If T.I gave up info on Mexican drug trafficking crews, which I don't really believe he did, as it is not really believable, they would begin to build a case off his information, which even if it was good info, could take years to build a case like the ones which were unsealed in the fall of 2007. Those are high intensity, long term ops. Those are coincidences.....end of the year is generally when major cases are unsealed. You can count on one or two every December/January.

 

[Judo]

I never thought he snitched though. I remember seeing TIP when I went to that charity with Bishop Eddie Long (before the scandel) a few years ago.

 

[bigrodthe1]

I am of the mind that there is something buried in his PSR and sentencing conditions that he doesn't want revealed......but the timeline of all those arrests doesn't add up at all. Without reading the article I know those ar elong terms 18 month investigations, and I confirmed by reading 2006 is when they started. You are talking cooperating witnesses, informants, wiretaps and interception, by the time T.I was arrested warrants and indictments were already ready to go, and they were just waiting to serve the arrest/search warrants. Which also is assuming T.I could bring down trans national trafficking crews based out of Mexican states as far away as Guerrero, which is borderline absurd.

But yeah, the timing is all off. Now, when a mid level or low level guy goes down, and he knows it's game over, a lot of these guys will start talking right away. Get arrested at 6:00 AM on a sealed indictment, decide to play ball, and you make those calls, and knock three people down before you go in. Now, you have established a relationship, and continue to cooperate up and until you are sentenced. A guy like T.I? He may have cards to play, he's going to lawyer up bail out, and start seeing what his options are. If there was cooperation, it would likely begin just before, and after his guilty plea, which was in May of 2008.

If T.I gave up info on Mexican drug trafficking crews, which I don't really believe he did, as it is not really believable, they would begin to build a case off his information, which even if it was good info, could take years to build a case like the ones which were unsealed in the fall of 2007. Those are high intensity, long term ops. Those are coincidences.....end of the year is generally when major cases are unsealed. You can count on one or two every December/January.

I respeck everything you posted but the bolded HELL NO your cooperation starts as SOON as they have the drop on you and doesn't end until they have cases locked down that you presented them thus allowing your conviction to be downgraded.

 

[mr. smoke weed]

If you've never had a court case you probably shouldn't be discussing someone else's court matters. Especially since maybe a handful of folks on this board know TI.

 

[John Hull]

"Anything special I need to know?"

 

[mr. smoke weed]

Furthermore TI has real $$$$ not the biggest breh on your block hustlin $, not the old white man who's CFO at your job $. He has bribing money, sitting down with the mayor money etc. etc. dude isn't a political criminal or some shyt like that. $$$$ will always be the trump card.

 

[re'up]

I respeck everything you posted but the bolded HELL NO your cooperation starts as SOON as they have the drop on you and doesn't end until they have cases locked down that you presented them thus allowing your conviction to be downgraded.

Not true at all though, man. Of course it varies, like the example I gave is garden variety, mid level guy gets popped by a task force, and he'll start snitching right away, like calling a dude that day for a block, and setting him up. A cooperation agreement is what a defendant enters into when he and his lawyer have decided that is the way that want to go. It's a long process. Esp. if the defendants have good cards to play, plus assets, they all want to assess the damage and see what the options are. Only the real scared boys start talking as soon as the cuffs are on. Esp. high level cases like this one. If TI talked, his lawyer and the AUSA ironed out a cooperation agreement which TI signed, and then pled guilty. There's a bureaucratic process that needs to take place, which often takes months, even years. Proffer sessions, etc, etc. It's a feeling out of each other, and what they can offer. You start talking without a plea bargain on the table, you are a scared fool, with no assets. T.I is not that. He had the best lawyers in his corner, he's not talking unless he knows what's on the table. High level cartel players, decent size traffickers, many generally cooperate, but it's gradual process, not an instant one.

 

[bigrodthe1]

Not true at all though, man. Of course it varies, like the example I gave is garden variety, mid level guy gets popped by a task force, and he'll start snitching right away, like calling a dude that day for a block, and setting him up. A cooperation agreement is what a defendant enters into when he and his lawyer have decided that is the way that want to go. It's a long process. Esp. if the defendants have good cards to play, plus assets, they all want to assess the damage and see what the options are. Only the real scared boys start talking as soon as the cuffs are on. Esp. high level cases like this one. If TI talked, his lawyer and the AUSA ironed out a cooperation agreement which TI signed, and then pled guilty. There's a bureaucratic process that needs to take place, which often takes months, even years. Proffer sessions, etc, etc. It's a feeling out of each other, and what they can offer. You start talking without a plea bargain on the table, you are a scared fool, with no assets. T.I is not that. He had the best lawyers in his corner, he's not talking unless he knows what's on the table. High level cartel players, decent size traffickers, many generally cooperate, but it's gradual process, not an instant one.

I agree with everything you saying but that does not change what I said. You start COOPERATING the minute you are detained. TI KNEW his ass was grass the minute the got him. Doesn't matter that he had dough. nikka KNEW he had to come up with some shyt! Hell in 2007 I SERIOUSLY doubt he had 2mil in cash and another in property to get the damn bond hell Rick Ross didn't have that shyt last year. He knew what the deal was off rip

 

[DIMES]

TI a :snitch: case closed


SMH @ c00ns thinking that there going to be a paper trail for the snitching

He's not.

 

[re'up]

It varies highly from one defendant to the next, and there is nothing but speculation to indicate T.I starting talking the DAY he got arrested. Which is really not even the main debate. I am not sure T.I cooperated, but I am very certain if he gave up info, it wasn't related to those trafficking cases, I'd look for white collar crimes he may have had knowledge of, arrests that were made quietly way down the line.

 

[bigrodthe1]

I'd look for white collar crimes he may have had knowledge of

a country ass nikka who only talks about drug dealing and guns...you CAN'T be serious...the feds would have hit him with the then then ask him was he then the














come on fam...are you one of his lawyers or some shyt