COVID-19 Pandemic (Coronavirus)

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Considering I used the data within that article to make the calculation, I don't think I was picking out any flaws in the data. So I'm not sure where you're getting that from.

My beef is that the article itself is being sensationalized and the data is being misrepresented. What the article should say is "Despite the Delta variant not being apart of the trials for the vaccine, it is still proving to be highly effective and the best weapon against COVID." Rather than being some scary bullshyt headline with a large percentage number knowing damn well no one's going to actually read that shyt because humans are fukking stupid.

No I'm pretty sure they're recommending boosters because studies have noticed that antibodies are waning around the 6-7 month mark, and that's pretty much the only reason why. Once again no one is challenging the data in that article, the challenge is how sensationalized that article is almost as if it's trying to purposely mislead people about the effectiveness of the vaccine in order to get clicks.

By showing a simple calculation that pretty much proves the vaccines work as they're designed to, I don't believe we're pushing any kind of misinformation. We're letting people know "hey look at these numbers the vaccine works please protect yourself". You're just arguing in bad faith at this point if you're stating that we're pushing misinformation. You're also completely misrepresenting my argument as a whole, because you've demonstrated on more than one occasion you have a bad habit of not being able to admit when you're wrong.

I can totally admit that wrong and have no problem doing so. Only problem with that is that if I’m wrong, then Israel and the CDC are wrong as hell and that creates a major now doesn’t it?

Israel’s data showed the vaccines effectiveness waning and that’s why they recommended the booster shot for 60+. The US is now using that information to recommend booster shots as well.

That’s a fact that both countries have admitted. So you call me wrong, but that means those countries are wrong as well.

 

[CHICAGO]

I posted this 2 pages ago and folk so fixated on stan wars they completely ignoring it.





I literally just posted that for Israel just a few comment above you:


Health Ministry data shows that among Israelis aged 60-plus, there are 16.6 people per 100,000 in serious condition. Among the unvaccinated the figure is 98.5.


So unvaxxed, at least in Israel, are over 6x more likely to end up in serious condition than the population at large. Since that 16.6 per 100,000 number is the total (including the unvaxxed), the # for vaccinated would be even lower than that.

WHAT IN THE fukk ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

THE GUY I WAS REPLYING
TO QUOTED SOME AMERICAN STATS...

IT HAD NOTHING TO DO
WITH HOSPITALIZATIONS.

IT HAD THE CURRENT PERCENTAGE
OF VACCINATED PPL WHO HAVE
COVID IN AMERICA
IN REGARDS TO THAT AREA.

I ASKED HIM
FOR THE PERCENTAGE OF UNVAXXED PPL WHO CURRENTLY HAVE COVID
IN REGARDS TO THAT AREA.

HE KNEW I WAS RIGHT
AND DECIDED TO IGNORE THE POST.

​

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

I can totally admit that wrong and have no problem doing so. Only problem with that is that if I’m wrong, then Israel and the CDC are wrong as hell and that creates a major now doesn’t it?

Israel’s data showed the vaccines effectiveness waning and that’s why they recommended the booster shot for 60+. The US is now using that information to recommend booster shots as well.

That’s a fact that both countries have admitted. So you call me wrong, but that means those countries are wrong as well.

Once again you're misrepresenting my argument. I'm not disputing the data in the article. I've said that 3 damn times now.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Once again you're misrepresenting my argument. I'm not disputing the data in the article. I've said that 3 damn times now.

Again the headline and information in article isn’t surprising to me as I’ve hearing and reading that information for months that people have downplayed. That’s literally why I said what I said and linked an article and graph better explanation and more context on what’s been going on with Israel and the purpose of OP article. Of course people overlooked and disregarded it as it doesn’t fit the narrative and for obvious reasons.

You also shouldn’t complain about those sensational headlines when doctors in the US had been doing the same thing for months even when Israel’s data told the truth about the booster shot, yet how have now switched their stance about it.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

I ASKED HIM
FOR THE PERCENTAGE OF UNVAXXED PPL WHO CURRENTLY HAVE COVID
IN REGARDS TO THAT AREA.

HE KNEW I WAS RIGHT
AND DECIDED TO IGNORE THE POST.

​

No you weren't right at all. Let me show you why:​

NY total population = 8,419,000
Total Full Vaccination = 4,772,625 (63.5%)
Remaining unvaccinated = 3,646,375 (36.5%)
Total unvaccinated cases = 38,505
Total vaccinated cases = 9,675
Total unvaccinated % = .01%
Total vaccinated % = .002%

If you don't see the HUGE difference in the last four numbers, you should go back to Middle School. These are from the period of May 3 to July 24, 2021....

New COVID-19 Cases and Hospitalizations Among...​

 

[Absolut]

Keep that same consistency in the future.

few threads for you to peruse on exactly why the Israel data is bunk, and maybe learn a thing or 2 in the process about stats

https://www.covid-datascience.com/p...strong-when-60-of-hospitalized-are-vaccinated

 

[Bboystyle]

Masks and social distancing do not stop covid.

Just when i thought this thread couldnt get any dumber.

 

[CHICAGO]

No you weren't right at all. Let me show you why:​

NY total population = 8,419,000
Total Full Vaccination = 4,772,625 (63.5%)
Remaining unvaccinated = 3,646,375 (36.5%)
Total unvaccinated cases = 38,505
Total vaccinated cases = 9,675
Total unvaccinated % = .01%
Total vaccinated % = .002%

If you don't see the HUGE difference in the last four numbers, you should go back to Middle School. These are from the period of May 3 to July 24, 2021....

New COVID-19 Cases and Hospitalizations Among...​

SO UNVACCINATED PPL
MAKE UP .01% OF CASES
AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO WORRY
ABOUT GETTING VAXXED?

DO I DO IT RIGHT?

BTW WHY DO
YOU ALWAYS TAKE OUT PPLS
MEMBER ID WHEN YOU QUOTE THEM
SO THEY WONT BE ALERTED
THAT YOU QUOTED THEM?

​

 

[Professor Emeritus]

95% of covid deaths are over the age of 50.

Kids aged 0-17 are 349 of the 600k+deaths. That is .0006% of covid deaths

If you're under the age of 40 you chances of dying from this barring no other health conditions is 1/5 of 1%.

Y'all gonna keep fear mongering tho


"We gotta protect da kidsss "

"get vaxxed or y'all's gon meet God "



COVID-19 deaths by age U.S. 2021 | Statista

First off, it's silly to post stats averaging shyt all the way back to March 2020 when its clear the Delta variant has been MUCH harder on young people than previous iterations

US coronavirus: Rates of Covid-19 hospitalizations for children and adults under 50 reach their highest levels yet, CDC data shows - CNN

Young People Are Biggest Group of Newly Hospitalized COVID-19 Patients.

Pace of children, young adults hospitalized for COVID-19 reaches highest point yet, CDC data shows

Younger People in US Getting Hit Hard by Delta Variant




And the rush in hospitalizations caused by all these young people getting seriously ill is filling up hospital beds, putting other people at risk.

Alabama hospitals full of critically ill COVID patients, no ICU beds

Alabama’s hospital crisis intensifies; 29 now waiting for ICU beds

North Texas runs out of pediatric ICU beds amid Covid surge

'Your child will wait for another child to die.' Amid Covid-19 surge, Dallas County has no pediatric ICU beds left, county judge says - CNN

These States Have Almost No ICU Beds Left As Covid Hospitalizations Soar

Inside Mississippi's 4th Covid wave: Younger patients, crying nurses and 7 ICU beds left

Man shot 6 times waits more than a week for surgery after hospital is overwhelmed by covid

 

[Actually6Foot3]

First off, it's silly to post stats averaging shyt all the way back to March 2020 when its clear the Delta variant has been MUCH harder on young people than previous iterations

US coronavirus: Rates of Covid-19 hospitalizations for children and adults under 50 reach their highest levels yet, CDC data shows - CNN

Young People Are Biggest Group of Newly Hospitalized COVID-19 Patients.

Pace of children, young adults hospitalized for COVID-19 reaches highest point yet, CDC data shows

Younger People in US Getting Hit Hard by Delta Variant




And the rush in hospitalizations caused by all these young people getting seriously ill is filling up hospital beds, putting other people at risk.

Alabama hospitals full of critically ill COVID patients, no ICU beds

Alabama’s hospital crisis intensifies; 29 now waiting for ICU beds

North Texas runs out of pediatric ICU beds amid Covid surge

'Your child will wait for another child to die.' Amid Covid-19 surge, Dallas County has no pediatric ICU beds left, county judge says - CNN

These States Have Almost No ICU Beds Left As Covid Hospitalizations Soar

Inside Mississippi's 4th Covid wave: Younger patients, crying nurses and 7 ICU beds left

Man shot 6 times waits more than a week for surgery after hospital is overwhelmed by covid

clickbait titles.

Elderly are still 87% of hospitalizations.

If 10 young people go in one week and 14 the next it's easy to say "WOAH 40% INCREASE IN YOUNG HOSPITALIZATIONS! THE HIGHEST WE'VE EVER SEEN"

Alabama? Mississippi? Two off the poorest most inept states in the union. Are they ever prepared for anything?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

clickbait titles.

Elderly are still 87% of hospitalizations.

If 10 young people go in one week and 14 the next it's easy to say "WOAH 40% INCREASE IN YOUNG HOSPITALIZATIONS! THE HIGHEST WE'VE EVER SEEN"

The articles were saying shyt like 31 children hospitalized just in one network of 3 Atlanta hospitals, and at a major Texas hospital almost 20% of their Covid patients are kids.

Alabama? Mississippi? Two off the poorest most inept states in the union. Are they ever prepared for anything?

In Georgia, 94% of statewide ICU beds are currently in use following a 74% jump in daily coronavirus cases over the last two weeks, and the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported some Atlanta hospitals needed to divert ambulances due to capacity issues.

ICU capacity sits at 93.2% in Florida and 93% in Mississippi, which have the nation’s third-highest and highest new Covid-19 infection rates, respectively.

Texas reported ICU usage of 92.7%, and Dallas-area hospitals warned Thursday that if their region runs out of intensive care beds, they may need to consider vaccination status when prioritizing who to treat.

Kentucky is using 90.7% of its ICU beds, and Gov. Andy Beshear said Wednesday every hospital bed in the state may be taken up in the next two weeks.

ICU occupancy is above 80% in 10 other states: Louisiana (89.3%), Missouri (88.9%), Oklahoma (87.9%), Arkansas (87.4%), Nevada (85.4%), North Carolina (84.8%), South Carolina (83.8%), New Mexico (83.6%), Idaho (82.7%) and Maine (80.4%).

 

[MenacingMonk]

1k nationwide ain't bad. LA County been under 40-50 since the DV. Death numbers were in the 100s when shyt was at its peak.

 

[MenacingMonk]

Just because you survive doesn't mean you won't be in the hospital for months with hundreds of thousands in hospital bills or have long term issues with your lungs and body.

Not everyone has the same immune system. My fam and I caught it last year (March 2020) and it was just a bad cold for us. My dad the only one who got the fever, but he was battling with Cancer. Mom lost her smell and taste, and at times would be short of breath (very mild). Worse thing I got was a bad cough.

I talked about it in the Covid thread, but at the time dudes were ssaying it was a cold. Fam only found out in September/October when my mom had blod work done for it.

 

[Afro]

But we cant even convince them that it aint gene-altering nano-bots.

at least the message of “ yo it keeps you out the hospital” was getting around and gaining steam. Plus was simple with no math needed


But now we have to incorporate some math and probability. Plus the numerous variables that are occurring. Then adding a potential need for a booster shot.
98% of ppl are done and cant take the ever changing message and math involved.

All that needs to be said.

We in the Endgame now.

Folks have made their decision.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

This is terrible, just when we were coming out of covid.

We're back to quarantines, zoom, and uber.