COVID-19 Pandemic (Coronavirus)

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It's now been 54 hours since my second Pfizer shot. Still nothing. No fever, no nausea, no headaches, no chills, none of the bad side effects everyone said that they get. My arm is starting to recover as well. Happy days.

I can't wait for a vaccine passport system to be implemented so I can go on about my life like normal, I'm sick of being stuck in lockdown. I need a haircut asap
 

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Pro Athletes aren't taking this shyt and I'm with them to. Them guys have access to elite medical services advising them, while the general public only has government's which have proven to lie and abuse them time and time again.
 

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Pro Athletes aren't taking this shyt and I'm with them to. Them guys have access to elite medical services advising them, while the general public only has government's which have proven to lie and abuse them time and time again.

Incredible post. It's almost like when President Trump was spreading misinformation about covid-19 while also having access to elite medical services. He contracted covid and utilized those services and later was vaccinated.

Do you have access to elite medical services?
 

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Incredible post. It's almost like when President Trump was spreading misinformation about covid-19 while also having access to elite medical services. He contracted covid and utilized those services and later was vaccinated.

Do you have access to elite medical services?
Dont know Trumps take on Covid so thats mute to me and did you see the man get vaccinated or you heard it. I don't have access to elite medical services but Pro Athletes do and they seem to not want to take the vaccine and even their teams aren't forcing them so theres that
 

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Really means nothing because we don’t know the lifestyle or other health issue the People have.
 

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Really means nothing because we don’t know the lifestyle or other health issue the People have.
it means if you don't get vaccinated against covid, you're more likely to get covid :mjlol:

obtuse mf'ers

What the fukk is wrong with you nikkas? People aren't going to get that shyt because you nikkas want them to. It is what it is. Move on. Nagging ass bytches on here.
no yea we should all just let you anti-vaxxer continue to prolong this pandemic due to your own retarded reasons :obama:

it's not just something we can ignore, you fukks are hurting the medical infrastructure, not to mention the economy with your bs

"Just leave us alone :sadbron:"

fukk you, be a grown ass adult and take a shot, p*ssy :snoop: you fukks not taking the vaccine is inconveniencing the world way more than you're inconvenienced to get vaccinated. :stopitslime:
 

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Tough to wade thru all the nonsense. Guess you can’t fault the average person when they don’t know shyt and who isn’t following epidemiologists and virologists all over twitter who are speaking out about the loads of misinformation out there. You have to seek them out, whereas the BS is widely available
Nah, you absolutely can when they’re busy telling us that doctors, scientists, and professors can’t be trusted and you have to do your own research.

And then turn around and eat up anything Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan, racist people on FB, and Twitter morons throw out there.

It’s absolutely the fault of the random person, 98% of the time. They just want to be contrarian.
 

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Either take it or don't. Arguing with people is pointless.

I see a lot of these 'look at me' smart dumb kundalini clowns online like Zaza Ali and all these other superstitious jokers making dumb ass self righteous posts and videos trying to score points for not taking the vaccine. It's the ones who DON'T take it that seem to be making the most noise.
 

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Covid infection protection waning in double jabbed

Researchers say they are seeing some waning of protection against Covid infections in double-jabbed people.

The real-world study includes data on positive Covid PCR test results between May and July 2021 among more than a million people who had received two doses of Pfizer or AstraZeneca vaccine.

Protection after two shots of Pfizer decreased from 88% at one month to 74% at five to six months.

For AstraZeneca, the fall was from 77% to 67% at four to five months.

Waning protection is to be expected, say experts.

Although some breakthrough infections may be happening, vaccines are still doing a very good job at protecting people against severe Covid illness and deaths.

Vaccines saving lives
Public Health England estimates that around 84,600 deaths and 23 million infections have been prevented as a result of the Covid-19 vaccination programme in England so far.

Prof Tim Spector, lead investigator on the Zoe Covid Study app behind the research, said the findings could explain recent breakthrough infections that some fully vaccinated people have been reporting.

Prof Spector said: "Waning protection is to be expected and is not a reason to not get vaccinated.

"Vaccines still provide high levels of protection for the majority of the population, especially against the Delta variant, so we still need as many people as possible to get fully vaccinated."

He estimates that protection against infection could drop to 50% by the winter and boosters will be needed, but other experts urge caution about making predictions for the months ahead.

The UK is expected to begin offering some people a third Covid booster jab next month, but is waiting for recommendations from an independent advisory body called the JCVI which is looking at evidence to support a decision.

Prof Spector said: "Many people may not need them. Many people may have had a natural booster because they've already had a natural Covid infection, so will effectively have had three vaccines.

"So I think the whole thing needs to be much more carefully managed than just giving it to everybody which would be a huge waste and ethically dubious given the resources we have. I think we need a more targeted approach than last time."

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This study once again illustrates why we need to get used to Covid circulating - this is not a virus that's going to go away.

The vaccines do not work like they do for measles which provide life-long immunity. Immunity against Covid was always expected to wane.

And another factor to consider is that repeated exposure to the virus is likely to increase the risk of a breakthrough infection - the increased likelihood over time of infection post-jabbing may not be all related to waning immunity.

Whatever the cause though, experts have been clear we should expect to be repeatedly infected over our lifetimes.

The important thing is that each re-infection should be milder as the vaccines remain highly effective at preventing serious illness.

What the vaccines have effectively done is taken the edge off the virus - given our immune system a head-start so those early infections are milder than they would have been for most.

What's not clear yet is the merits of offering the most vulnerable a booster jab. It is likely to be a fine judgement call because there are so many unknowns - although the expectation is some will be offered it.

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Dr Simon Clarke, an expert in cellular microbiology at the University of Reading, said infection levels in the community would alter a person's chance of encountering and catching Covid at any given time, making it hard to draw firm conclusions about waning immunity.

Dr Alexander Edwards, also from the University of Reading, said it was important to understand when booster doses might be needed and for whom.

"Vaccination does not, unsurprisingly, make people invulnerable, and does not prevent all infections. Variants have real and significant impact on public health, and a lot of people are still tragically dying in the UK from this nasty virus.

"The vaccines we have are remarkably safe and effective, and still remain far better than other vaccines that give massive benefits."

He added: "We must pro-actively plan our public health strategy to account for imperfect protection, and for the possibility of falling protection over time."

'Watch carefully'
A similar study was published by the Office for National Statistics and the Oxford Vaccine Group last week.

Based on PCR test results from nearly 400,000 people who had been infected with the Delta variant in the UK, it found two doses of the Pfizer vaccine was initially more than 90% effective against symptomatic Covid infection, compared to around 70% for the AstraZeneca vaccine.

But over the course of three months, the protection from Pfizer fell significantly whereas immunity with the AstraZeneca jab remained more stable.

Prof Adam Finn, a government vaccine adviser, said other studies had shown that the vaccines maintained good protection against serious illness and hospitalisation.

But he said: "We do need to watch out very carefully to see if this waning against milder disease begins to translate into occurrence of more severe cases because then boosters will be needed."
 
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i'll say my opinion when an interesting/newsworthy thread shows up like the one about hospital employees walking out or when the FDA approved it, but in general i agree.

there are posters here who have dedicated 90-100% of their postings into getting in vaccine arguments and it just seems futile to me. also the thread of x person wasn't vaccinated, now they're dead is another one to stay away from.

i'm vaccinated, i think it makes more sense than conspiracies or ideas that everyone vaccinated is gonna drop dead in 5 years, but at this point a lot of people aren't changing their mind.

(and quite frankly the latest news of Biden urging businesses to mandate people to get it sounds like some weird capitalist cracking the whip of no more work from home type shyt, so feel free to remain unvaccinated.)
just please wear your masks and follow other protocol, don't lie about being vaccinated to attend other events where it is required, that's all i ask of yall. :manny:




How did this honor system foolishness work the first time?

Unvaxxed folks are gonna be lying like crazy to get into events and establishments.
 

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