COVID 'Lambda' Variant Showing Vaccine Resistence

[Reign_Of_The_Most_High]

This niqqa is retarded

Everyone online is always trying to be cute with emoji's or whatever. Basic math would you take a 95-99% chance to get paid $2000 every week or 1-4% chance to win a million? That is the type of odds of if you contract covid-19 you have of dying. The vast majority of people recover from it, even considering long covid symptoms etc (which this isnt the only strain of coronavirus that you can suffer from those symptoms potentially) you have better odds recovering.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

The vast majority of people recover from it, even considering long covid symptoms etc (which this isnt the only strain of coronavirus that you can suffer from those symptoms potentially) you have better odds recovering.

You have BETTER odds not even getting infected if you're vaccinated. This is NOT debatable as vaccinated people are less than 1% likely to get infected. No need to recover. No chance of spreading to anyone else.​

 

[THE MACHINE]

When's the last time you saw someone suffering from polio?

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The polio vaccine pretty much eliminates you from catching the live polio. The Covid Vaccine lessens the likelihood of death. It doesnt stop the virus or the spread. If every person in this country took the shot, the mutations would be still there and the "normal" covid would still be spreading like wildfire, it would just lessen the severe symptoms for the highest at risk. So you could still have long term effects from catching covid and the non FDA approved vaccine.

Then when the millions that took the shot have to go back annually, whats gonna happen when they say "Nah, Im good this year"? Covid and its 23452837529 variants will be there. If you dont plan on taking the shot annually, you are just like the people you call anti-vaxxers, you just came to the realization that you have to live with the risks later than we did.

 

[Raw Lyrics]

Don't believe that. Bill Gates, in his own words, been preparing for a pandemic since ebola. There's actually a conspiracy that the Gates Foundation held an invite-only coronavirus pandemic simulation just one month before the first case of covid 19 in wuhan.

Ofc, your friendly fact checkers claim that to be false. How so, you might ask. Was there not actually a coronavirus pandemic simulation? No, there was, they just concluded that its unrelated.

Our ruling: False

Although Event 201 was a real event affiliated with high-profile medical professionals, business leaders and government actors, the claim that the event predicted the current pandemic, or is tied to it directly in some way, is unfounded. We rate this claim FALSE because it is not supported by our research. There is no reason to believe that the current pandemic will resemble the Event 201 simulation, despite coincidences in the modeling and timing of the simulation.
Fact check: A Bill Gates-backed pandemic simulation in October did not predict COVID-19


Im thinking more of a 'woke' technofascism.

 

[HarlemHottie]

Thank you for recognizing my efforts.

I don't usually post in these threads bc its basically majority party line vs a few 'free thinkers' with poor sources, but it got so very absurd, I had to jump in.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

One I didnt get any information from any social media post. This is my own curiosity into understanding the argument from both sides and making a informed decision for myself and offering the information to other so they can see the full picture regardless of what media chooses to tell them or not tell them.

Bullshyt, then how did you come up with the EXACT same set of outdated or irrelevant papers that have been getting pushed by Mercola and others on Facebook and Instagram? Are you saying you just went to Mercola's website directly for that BS?

What find interesting from a lot of posters here that are generally looked as critical thinkers, is we've seen throughout history governments experimenting on the populace, pushing through treatments, vaccines etc regardless of their own internal studies etc. But when it comes to this, none of this skepticism and past precedence is considered seriously, its dismissed as "conspiracy theory" or political leverage by whatever party that is the flavor of the month to hate.

No, actually, never in our lives have we ever seen hundreds of thousands of medical researchers and every government around the world perpetuate a hoax to push an illegitimate vaccine that doesn't benefit most of them in any clear way. We've literally never seen that.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Everyone online is always trying to be cute with emoji's or whatever. Basic math would you take a 95-99% chance to get paid $2000 every week or 1-4% chance to win a million? That is the type of odds of if you contract covid-19 you have of dying. The vast majority of people recover from it, even considering long covid symptoms etc (which this isnt the only strain of coronavirus that you can suffer from those symptoms potentially) you have better odds recovering.

What does that analogy even represent in your head?

"Refusing to take the vaccine" isn't equivalent to getting paid dough every week, "dying" isn't equivalent to winning a milly, and you completely ignore getting sick and spreading it to others.


Here's a better analogy. You've been told to pay your taxes, which will take you about an hour and cost you $100. If you don't pay, you save the hour and the $100, but there's a 30% chance that you'll be fined $1000, a 10% chance you'll go to jail for a few days, and a 1-2% chance federal agents will bust down your door and kill you or those you love.

Do you sit around with that fine, jail time, and possible death to you or your loved ones hanging over your head, or do you just bite the bullet and pay your fukking taxes?

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

The polio vaccine pretty much eliminates you from catching the live polio. The Covid Vaccine lessens the likelihood of death. It doesnt stop the virus or the spread.

False....

Vaccination against COVID-19 prevents breakthrough infections, Stanford researchers find​

A Stanford study finds that the mRNA vaccines, Pfizer and Moderna, offer strong protection against the California variant of the coronavirus.

More than 99% of Stanford Health Care employees resisted breakthrough infections after receiving at least one dose of an mRNA-based vaccine for COVID-19, according to researchers at the Stanford School of Medicine.

Between Dec. 18, 2020, and April 2, 2021, at least 23,090 employees at Stanford Health Care received one or two doses of the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine. During that period, 189 of vaccinated individuals tested positive for SARS-CoV-2, which causes COVID-19. By contrast, at least 660 of approximately 6,910 — nearly 10% — of unvaccinated workers became infected with the coronavirus.

What this means is that the vaccine PREVENTED 99%+ of vaccinated people from infection from COVID-19.

If you don't get infected, you can't spread COVID.​

 

[THE MACHINE]

False....

Vaccination against COVID-19 prevents breakthrough infections, Stanford researchers find​

A Stanford study finds that the mRNA vaccines, Pfizer and Moderna, offer strong protection against the California variant of the coronavirus.

More than 99% of Stanford Health Care employees resisted breakthrough infections after receiving at least one dose of an mRNA-based vaccine for COVID-19, according to researchers at the Stanford School of Medicine.

Between Dec. 18, 2020, and April 2, 2021, at least 23,090 employees at Stanford Health Care received one or two doses of the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine. During that period, 189 of vaccinated individuals tested positive for SARS-CoV-2, which causes COVID-19. By contrast, at least 660 of approximately 6,910 — nearly 10% — of unvaccinated workers became infected with the coronavirus.

What this means is that the vaccine PREVENTED 99%+ of vaccinated people from infection from COVID-19.

If you don't get infected, you can't spread COVID.​

In the real world, why would a vaccinated person go get tested if they are asympomatic? They would assume they don’t have it right?

Breakthrough Covid cases: Data shows how many vaccinated Americans have tested positive

But the total number of breakthrough cases is likely higher than 125,683, since nine states, including Pennsylvania and Missouri, did not provide any information, while 11, like Covid hotspot Florida, did not provide death and hospitalization totals. Four states gave death and hospitalization numbers, but not the full tally of cases.

And vaccinated adults who have breakthrough cases but show no symptoms could be missing from the data altogether, say officials

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CDC's most recent published data says that as of July 26 there have been 6,587 hospitalizations among fully vaccinated Americans and 1,263 deaths. Research by NBC News indicates that the number who have been hospitalized or died has already passed 7,300 in just the 30 states providing data.

Dr. Marcus Plescia, medical director for the Association of State and Territorial Health Officials, says federal and state officials are still trying to understand the breakthrough rate especially when people who take at-home tests are under no obligation to report the results to health departments. And he says while there are concerns that the percentage of breakthrough cases may be higher in the elderly and immuno-compromised than was once thought, the vaccines are still effective. "Seventy percent is still really good, it's better than most flu vaccines," he said.

While some states track breakthrough cases meticulously, others — like Missouri, where cases are surging — lack "quality statewide data," according to state officials. Other states are choosing to only release partial data.

For example, like Florida, New York is not releasing data on breakthrough deaths.
"We are continuing to investigate the number of fully vaccinated people who may have been hospitalized or passed away," :juelzgif: said Abigail Barker, spokesperson for the New York State Department of Health.

Even among states that track cases closely, officials cautioned data is likely incomplete. Vaccinated people who are infected but asymptomatic are probably largely missing from statistics.


Robert Long, spokesperson for Maine Department of Health and Human Services, said, "Those who have been fully vaccinated and have a breakthrough case but are not symptomatic and not part of a regular testing protocol may never be captured in these numbers."

The CDC is now changing tactics amid new information showing that fully vaccinated people who get Covid can transmit the virus to others.

Critics of the agency like former FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb, said federal officials are failing to capture the overall scope of infection of Covid cases. Gottlieb told CNBC Friday, "I suspect probably one in 10 infections is actually getting reported."

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

In the real world, why would a vaccinated person go get tested if they are asympomatic?

Because we work with/around people who may be infected on a daily basis and we also have relatives with compromised immune systems/not old enough to be vaccinated.

Vaccination PREVENTS people from being infected and spreading the disease.​

 

[Reign_Of_The_Most_High]

In the real world, why would a vaccinated person go get tested if they are asympomatic? They would assume they don’t have it right?

Breakthrough Covid cases: Data shows how many vaccinated Americans have tested positive

Bro they don't want to hear you though. I mean the CDC stopped testing vaccinated people unless hospitalized. They want to swallow the narrative from the media hook line and sinker. The same country and government that allows all kinds of toxic chemicals and substances to be put in "food" stuffs and sold, a country that used to advertise spraying DDT on people, marketing cigs to pregnant women and all kinds fukkery throughout its history. "But no possible fukkery going on here", I mean you literally have a nation founded on bloodshed, rape, murder, slavery and oppression. Willing to assassinate their own presidents and whom they label as "dissidents" (MLK, Fred Hampton, Malcolm X etc), but no they never would be involved in that . All kinds of conflicting interests, lobbying, regulatory capture and outright leveraging of power to get a foothold in this government.. but nah. Wont happen.

CDC: 4,115 Fully Vaccinated Have Been Hospitalized Or Died With Breakthrough Covid-19 Infections

 

[The Amerikkkan Idol]

Did I blame black and latinos in my fukking message... Nope. So once again why the fukk are you responding to me as if I did? If you want to argue with people over bullshyt find someone else. Also the only people on here I'm talkin down to are paste eating conspiracy theorists/anti vaxxers who say stupid shyt like "Mark of the Beast" and "OMG GOVT IS GONNA MICROCHIP ME!!!!!!!!!!" bytch wtf do you think the NSA been doing since the early 2000's????? It would be nice if people would like learn some history or pay attention to politics every now and then.....

To address the rest of your nonsense the blame for COVID Vaccine anti vaxxers lies squarely at the feet of republican politicians and online right wing propaganda on social media full stop. The first people that were begging to get this shot were rich white people, if that's not the signal that it aint dangerous I'm not sure what is. Rich mother fukkers in Florida were literally bribing Ron Desantis to get their hands on this shyt. The government didn't make these vaccines private corporations did and most private corporations especially Big Pharma aint really in the business of killing their paying customers. It's bad for business, that's capitalism 101.

If you're still skeptical at this point it's not based in reality or what's actually going on in the world. You're probably just stupid as fukk and poisoned your brain with online bullshyt. The people who have been responsible throughout this pandemic are sick and tired of these stupid mother fukkers. I don't care if you're white, black, purple whatever you're fukking stupid get the fukking jab. It's time to fall in line get this shyt and let's get society cranking again enough is enough. Let's drive these numbers down and make COVID as relevant as the flu.

BTW there are a bunch of right wing loons on this site so it could quickly be confused for Black Breitbart. I don't care what color you are if you're a fascist you're a piece of shyt human and you don't deserve respect or oxygen.

Dude, you're yelling at everybody here.

We're all Black. . . I thinkor at least mostly.

My point is that these companies are the reason people don't trust the shot.

they have proven time & time again not to be trust worthy











These companies are NOT good actors and never have been.

The fact that you think that Black people need The Republicans to teach us to be paranoid of the government & corporations after Tuskegee and all that other shyt says to me that you're not actually around Black people in real life regularly.

 

[Reign_Of_The_Most_High]

Same thing they got out of the opioid crisis: money from repeat customers. They don't care if you die. A few hundred million $ in potential fines is a drop in the bucket.

I cant believe yall take this nikka seriously.

Its hilarious really because this is an actual tactic by lawyers etc for corporations. Or tie up cases in court to bleed people dry and get it dismissed if they can.

 

[Raw Lyrics]

8. That says that mrna vaccines are not gene therapy and don't change your DNA, even though some people get confused. So you posted it because.....?

In Moderna's own SEC filing, page 120, 4th paragraph, 4th bullet point states:

• "the effects of mRNA in a cell can be transient and limits risk of irreversible changes to the cell’s DNA."

Two points to that sentence, one: "can be" and "is" are two entirely different statements. "can be" implies maybe.

2nd point: "...and limits the risk of irreversible changes to the cell's DNA" So by Moderna's own admission there are risks of irreversible changes to the cell's DNA. Again, these are Moderna's own words not Mercola.


Moreover, since you seem to put a lot of stock into pharmaceutically-subsidized mainstream media, I'll post a quote from Rudolf Jaenisch, MD., a professor of Biology at MIT:

MSN/MD: Does your recent study indicate that the Covid-19 mRNA vaccines can damage DNA in humans?

Dr. Jaenisch: Not really evidence of damage. The mRNA can integrate into the DNA and possibly be expressed but there is no direct evidence of that.

Can the mRNA vaccines change DNA?

What posters need to realize when they read your posts: is that although you tend to post with authoritative statements indicating you know something, you almost always fail to admit what you don't know. For all the Coli heads on here, always view someone as suspect when they claim to have all the answers, because when it comes to this topic - all the best scientists on the face of this earth do not have all the answers (even proponents of mRNA vaccines will admit that).

There is a lot we don't know about the long-term effects on human beings, when it comes to these mRNA vaccines. I'm not against anyone taking them, my only concern is that the public should be made empathically aware of what we don't know. We are the experiment subjects, remember that.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

False....

Vaccination against COVID-19 prevents breakthrough infections, Stanford researchers find​

A Stanford study finds that the mRNA vaccines, Pfizer and Moderna, offer strong protection against the California variant of the coronavirus.

More than 99% of Stanford Health Care employees resisted breakthrough infections after receiving at least one dose of an mRNA-based vaccine for COVID-19, according to researchers at the Stanford School of Medicine.

Between Dec. 18, 2020, and April 2, 2021, at least 23,090 employees at Stanford Health Care received one or two doses of the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine. During that period, 189 of vaccinated individuals tested positive for SARS-CoV-2, which causes COVID-19. By contrast, at least 660 of approximately 6,910 — nearly 10% — of unvaccinated workers became infected with the coronavirus.

What this means is that the vaccine PREVENTED 99%+ of vaccinated people from infection from COVID-19.

If you don't get infected, you can't spread COVID.​

Note that your study is an excellent proof of your argument. But the only response it got from their side is more deflection and misinformation.

In the real world, why would a vaccinated person go get tested if they are asympomatic? They would assume they don’t have it right?

Bro they don't want to hear you though. I mean the CDC stopped testing vaccinated people unless hospitalized.

So both of you chose not to read the fukking study even after he provided it for you? It's your right to remain ignorant, but continuing to post and promote ignorance AFTER you've been given the proper information is some bullshyt.

That study says that asymptomatic health care personnel were tested weekly regardless if they had been vaccinated or not. They were also tested for contact tracing after potential exposure whether they had been vaccinated or not. There was no difference in testing protocols between vaccinated and unvaccinated personnel. So your entire narrative to explain away facts you don't like is dead.

Why did you refuse to even read the study before commenting with falsehoods?