CP0 still bitter about Steph overtaking him

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Maybe he wants his shot to fall when under duress and the team needs it he most? :manny: Yes Steph is the GOAT shooter, however it hasn't always looked like it when shyt got hot. That said, maybe Nash and the guy that let 20 year old Bron get into his head aren't the best alternatives :ld: All that said, it's his list it has no impact on reality or what anyone else thinks. And I thought we wanted the good old fashioned genuine dislike and hated all the "buddy buddy superfriends" stuff?
 

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That is an arbitrary description for a point guard. His job is to help his team win. The Warriors structured one of the greatest offenses in NBA history around the threat of Curry's shooting. If Curry were a more ball dominant player you'd see him approach double digit assists as he did in 2014 under Mark Jackson, but that's not helping his team reach their potential.

stuff like this

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doesn't align with "6 apg"

Reggie Miller isn't a point guard but still relevant to the topic - averaged around 3apg for his career. Never much of a focal point as a playmaker. But the Pacers structured their offense around the attention Miller received as a shooter and were regularly top ten in the league as a result. He did a ton to help players succeed.
You realize the bolded proves my point though. A star player should make their teamates better regardless of position. But being a star doesn't mean you a good point. You just admitted Reggie isn't a point and compared his influence to steph. Thread is about designing the perfect point guard, not the perfect all around player.
 

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You realize the bolded proves my point though. A star player should make their teamates better regardless of position. But being a star doesn't mean you a good point. You just admitted Reggie isn't a point and compared his influence to steph. Thread is about designing the perfect point guard, not the perfect all around player.

Your point is that a point guard should play a specific way. That’s wrong. They should play in whatever way benefits their specific team most. A guy averaging 10apg doesn’t mean they help teammates more than someone averaging 6 while playing within the flow of an offense, drawing doubles without the ball because teams are scared of leaving the best shooter ever with room to breathe.

I used Reggie as an example of a player who makes teammates better through off ball movement. To show that apg doesn't tell the story of how a player influences his teammates for the better. Curry is obviously a supercharged version of that with his advanced ball handling, playmaking creativity, what he forces defenses to do in a P&R situation.

Unless you think the perfect point guard should have the ball in his hands at every single moment of the game for an offense, the perfect point guard would be an elite off ball threat as well. Curry is the best off ball PG ever. No reason to leave him off this list unless you're bitter like Paul probably is.
 

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Your point is that a point guard should play a specific way. That’s wrong. They should play in whatever way benefits their specific team most. A guy averaging 10apg doesn’t mean they help teammates more than someone averaging 6 while playing within the flow of an offense, drawing doubles without the ball because teams are scared of leaving the best shooter ever with room to breathe.

I used Reggie as an example of a player who makes teammates better through off ball movement. To show that apg doesn't tell the story of how a player influences his teammates for the better. Curry is obviously a supercharged version of that with his advanced ball handling, playmaking creativity, what he forces defenses to do in a P&R situation.

Unless you think the perfect point guard should have the ball in his hands at every single moment of the game for an offense, the perfect point guard would be an elite off ball threat as well. Curry is the best off ball PG ever. No reason to leave him off this list unless you're bitter like Paul probably is.

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You realize the bolded proves my point though. A star player should make their teamates better regardless of position. But being a star doesn't mean you a good point. You just admitted Reggie isn't a point and compared his influence to steph. Thread is about designing the perfect point guard, not the perfect all around player.
Shooting guards rarely would bring the ball up and control the offense before Jordan changed the position with his influence and Steph is basically doing the same thing with the PG position in reverse
 
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