Creh says that tech jobs are over

[cyndaquil]

I get that but can't they just get Indians or mexicans/argentinians to do it? I've been hearing chapter about teams bringing in engineers from those countries specifically

No. That's a product of the current economy. The talent disparity is real and product outcomes are so dependent on communication that the language and cultural barriers will produce bad outcomes. Also there is no standardization of licenses in tech. So getting someone from Mexico to code will be alot different than someone from the united states who went to a 4 year here. US candidates typically are better.

 

[yung Herbie Hancock]

No. That's a product of the current economy. The talent disparity is real and product outcomes are so dependent on communication that the language and cultural barriers will produce bad outcomes. Also there is no standardization of licenses in tech. So getting someone from Mexico to code will be alot different than someone from the united states who went to a 4 year here. US candidates typically are better.

I see. What area of cyber security would you recommend a new graduate head towards? Incident response ? Threat hunting? I'm trying to avoid oversaturated areas.

 

[JLova]

The Coli said this was where it's at...

Technology will always be popular....it will just evolve. We had low rates for a long time...then they got dropped even further during Covid giving a false sense of reality. Companies got greedy...low rates you invest because cash is cheap. Companies can afford those pet projects and hiring mad people...

Now all those loans have high ass interest rates and are like a noose around a company's neck. High ass inflation means everything is expensive...customers cut their spending. Business start losing money. So they cut costs...which means layoffs, cutting those pet projects. Tech is the worst in an economic downturn...I saw it when I first started out in the early 2000s and during 2008...then I said there's no way I will ever rely on a job and started investing.

As an older breh with a family, I'll be looking to transition out of tech. shyt is good for the youngsters and single folk...terrible if you have a family and want good work life balance. The money aint worth it if you're always getting laid off or always worried about your job or just generally being in such a negative environment. I've seen a lot of good people go over the years in some of the worst ways. shyt is ingrained in my memory.

 

[JLova]

No. That's a product of the current economy. The talent disparity is real and product outcomes are so dependent on communication that the language and cultural barriers will produce bad outcomes. Also there is no standardization of licenses in tech. So getting someone from Mexico to code will be alot different than someone from the united states who went to a 4 year here. US candidates typically are better.

I'll be on calls having no fukking idea wtf these mafukkaz are saying half the time.

 

[BaggerofTea]

Which wpuld you recommend. Threat hunting or incident response ? Yeah I've been looking at cyber but so many people are spamming it on reddit that I'm worried that by the time I graduated (Spring 2025) it'll be saturated

master the fundamentals

both threat hunting and incident response will require you to know your fundamentals so you know what the issue is and what data sources to consult

 

[cyndaquil]

I see. What area of cyber security would you recommend a new graduate head towards? Incident response ? Threat hunting? I'm trying to avoid oversaturated areas.

New grad? Whatever you see has job opening and will get you experience. Just skill up and switch jobs in 2 years when the market should be better and make sure you interview once a year would be my advice.
Get your first job and just skill up. You can learn anything in tech in your free time that's the beauty of it. If you wanna switch roles it's very easy

 

[cyndaquil]

I'll be on calls having no fukking idea wtf these mafukkaz are saying half the time.

And they be having no idea what the fukk you saying but they'll tell you "ok" and come back with some shyt having you go

 

[yung Herbie Hancock]

New grad? Whatever you see has job opening and will get you experience. Just skill up and switch jobs in 2 years when the market should be better and make sure you interview once a year would be my advice.

I get that... I mean what areas do you see the most growth in going forward. Mostly asking to decide if I should go the defense contractor routers by leveraginf my former clearance or focus on civilian world.

 

[O.Red]

The outsourcing will stop when the companies realize the Indians are fukkin up shyt cuz the language and communication barriers. They only doing this to cut costs in the meantime. There's a cycle in tech where every so often companies will try to outsource everything and up with a fukked up product and have to hire onshore devs 10x the cost to fix what they could've paid originally to get it right

They definitely know Indians are making trash but short term cost cuts will always take priority

 

[-DMP-]

How tech over when AI popping?

 

[cyndaquil]

I get that... I mean what areas do you see the most growth in going forward. Mostly asking to decide if I should go the defense contractor routers by leveraginf my former clearance or focus on civilian world.

I'm not in cyber but from a developer stand point clearances give you a leg up because not applicants have them. Maybe try defense to get your first job. Experience is king now.

 

[papa pimp]

man i must be in another reality

 

[BaggerofTea]

Which wpuld you recommend. Threat hunting or incident response ? Yeah I've been looking at cyber but so many people are spamming it on reddit that I'm worried that by the time I graduated (Spring 2025) it'll be saturated

think less about titles, and more about domains.


do you want to specialize in offensive/defensive security. Do you like programming?

focus on learning a particular technology like cloud.


Be like water

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

As an older breh with a family, I'll be looking to transition out of tech. shyt is good for the youngsters and single folk...terrible if you have a family and want good work life balance. The money aint worth it if you're always getting laid off or always worried about your job or just generally being in such a negative environment. I've seen a lot of good people go over the years in some of the worst ways. shyt is ingrained in my memory.

This is true when talking startups, growth companies and PIP factories like Amazon, Netflix and Meta these days. But get with a stable old/public tech company like Microsoft, oracle, workday, salesforce (depending on team) and WLB is there plus good pay. All these startups hit me all the time and I’m like nah, they want people doing too much for too little pay (lower salary, no bonus, no RSU’s) fukk that

 

[the bossman]

I get that but can't they just get Indians or mexicans/argentinians to do it? I've been hearing chapter about teams bringing in engineers from those countries specifically

the software quality that comes out of these places be real janky a lot of times. I've also seen customers bring down their entire network or cloud environment from misunderstanding instructions they were given due to some Indian or Mexican's thick accent. there will always be outsourcing here and there but it won't be everything. it just doesn't work on a large scale