Cry about colorism only to practice heightism, brehettes...

[CinnaSlim]

They're both examples of social conditioning though. You've been socialized to prefer men that are way taller than the average man. He's been socialized to prefer lighter skinned women. There's no argument against that. You just want people to feel bad for you by complaining about one and excusing the other. And I would refute your statement that women don't think those men are "less than". The whole point of women not wanting short men is because they feel that they aren't man enough for them or are less of a man than a taller man. I.e. defective. inferior. substandard. not good enough. Do I gotta post the tweets from Twitter about short guys?

Did I argue against that point of social conditioning?

Not everyone like super tall dudes. My dad is 5'4. I'm 5'2. Dating guys 6'+ is also awkward as a girl 5'7 dating a guy my height.

You are obviously projecting and this must be a sore subject for you because who said I want people to feel sorry for me?

By "less than" I meant less valuable, by people othering and discriminating against you. Colorism is aligned with racism and classism, saying that dark people are less valuable, not worthy of respect, less human.

Height is always brought up in the context of personal relationships and the standards for each person is different. There is no systematic subjugation of short men. If so, please educate me.

Like I also previously stated and you stated in OP, men are on average taller by a few inches. It is an indicator of masculinity and good health. It is against our instinctual nature to go after shorter men. So it's relative. If you are short, date shorter women and stop pining over people who dont want you as that is what is really unattractive.

There are plenty of short attractive men, and they usually also have other factors going for them. Intelligence, charisma, confidence, money and resources, generosity and empathy.

Last point, being short is more aligned with being flat chested/flat assed than skin color.

 

[Cryptocurrency Scarface]

Easy answer:
They want the man to be at least 2-4 inches taller than them in heels.

4-6 in heels + 2-4 in height difference = 6-10in height difference.

Which actually makes a lot of sense

Not really because most of the time women aren't in heels while going shopping, parks the beach or at airports unless they're extremely vain. Dinner parties weddings and clubs are the only times heels are acceptable if you're still hitting the club as a married couple.

And ever thought shorter dudes prefer taller females that they can procreate with to make sure the next generation improves on them.

 

[Phitz]

Alot of women just talk. I've never seen height stop a guy from getting a woman he finds attractive.

 

[CinnaSlim]

Tell that to the dudes with Gigantism and heart problems.

There are extremes on both sides and gigantism is extremely rare. You really gonna bring that up?

 

[Cryptocurrency Scarface]

There are extremes on both sides and gigantism is extremely rare. You really gonna bring that up?

Yup because the association that increased height = health is retarded

 

[Cryptocurrency Scarface]

I'm 5"9

I'm King of the Midgets though

calling 5'9 a midget

 

[CinnaSlim]

Well, I do my research based on observation and most of the women I meet daily act like men and they're different from women from past generations. And we were all blessed to witness the fukkery of women on a thread culled from a female dominated board, where the women from all walks of life said they don't need men to protect them.

So you can see the loudest voices have started manipulating the majority to operate with that mentality, hence they're majority. The onus is now on women like you who don't agree with it, to start speaking up to make your voices heard.

Want = desire while need = necessity. And wants most times become needs, when you decide to become less frugal. You ought to know this if you studied economics. So when you say it isn't a necessity but you desire it, it means you're somewhat conflicted and if and when the opportunity arises, you'll take. And the only reason why you don't deem it a necessity is because you don't have the means to get it, albeit you won't reject it if it's handed to you.

So based on your anecdotal evidence...

Stop assuming shyt. You dont know that I havent studied economics. Study what necessity means.

 

[MalikX]

Did I argue against that point of social conditioning?

Not everyone like super tall dudes. My dad is 5'4. I'm 5'2. Dating guys 6'+ is also awkward as a girl 5'7 dating a guy my height.

You are obviously projecting and this must be a sore subject for you because who said I want people to feel sorry for me?

By "less than" I meant less valuable, by people othering and discriminating against you. Colorism is aligned with racism and classism, saying that dark people are less valuable, not worthy of respect, less human.

Height is always brought up in the context of personal relationships and the standards for each person is different. There is no systematic subjugation of short men. If so, please educate me.

Like I also previously stated and you stated in OP, men are on average taller by a few inches. It is an indicator of masculinity and good health. It is against our instinctual nature to go after shorter men. So it's relative. If you are short, date shorter women and stop pining over people who dont want you as that is what is really unattractive.

There are plenty of short attractive men, and they usually also have other factors going for them. Intelligence, charisma, confidence, money and resources, generosity and empathy.

Last point, being short is more aligned with being flat chested/flat assed than skin color.

Not projection. Calling out hypocrisy. You've been conditioned to want certain uncontrollable traits in a man and it's "OKAY'. He's been conditioned to want certain uncontrollable traits in a woman, and its "BAD". That's hypocritical. If I"m projecting, so are all these dark skin women crying about colorism trying to use their ancestors' torment to shame people into wanting them

By women hating on short men, they're saying shorter men are less valuable, not worthy of respect, less of a man, inferior, not a real man. And the illogical part about it is the men they're talking about are TALLER THAN THEM (5"7 - 5"9) or at EQUAL HEIGHT. They're just saying those things because those men aren't above 6 foot.

Being short is not more aligned with being flat chested/flat assed because men are alot more willing to date women with those traits and aren't openly discriminating against them with the same level of vitriol that women use toward men to don't align with what they feel is the right level of masculinity (i.e. being tall).

 

[William F. Russell]

I hate all you tall nikkas and the women who love them.

 

[Big Blue]

Yup because the association that increased height = health is retarded

Stop taking correlations and turning them into definites

 

[Phitz]

Also having a preference for a taller male partner may be instinctual because of sexual dimorphism. Men tend to be larger than the females and females have a instinct to look for a mate who can protect and provide for the family. Same reason, men like wide hips and big titties. Also, height is indicative of good health. There are many illnesses and situations that cause stunted growth.

So it's not so much that you have to be a giant. Just be taller than your girl. If you short, date asians and south american women. Or stack your bread so you can afford to provide your family with the protection they need through employees, financial stability or technology.

I only notice this in America to be honest. Unless Americans 'develop' different than anyone else around the world. I think it's more cultural than anything.

Other countries I have visited and lived women do not look at height as a big deal. In many of these countries there are lots of women who prefer a man who is not tall or overly tall.

Also shorter people in general have a better centre of gravity, their knees last longer, and tend to live longer due to their reserve cells which taller people do not have. Their height makes them better in SOME fighting scenarios if you want to look at it from that protection perspective.

Personally at 5 10" I have no dog in this debate, just stating my own observations and what I've learned from scientific study.

 

[SubZero]

So based on your anecdotal evidence...

Stop assuming shyt. You dont know that I havent studied economics. Study what necessity means.

Why so emotional? I already showed you how necessity and desire can overlap and how the loudest voices can manipulate public opinions in terms of majority.

But are you going to speak up and counter the public opinion you don't agree with and let your voice be heard?

The loudest voices made Nate Parker's Nat Turner movie a dud at the box office. So don't tell me they aren't the majority.

 

[The Mad Titan]

Part of being a man is learning to hold L's

If you short which could be anything from 6 feet under then you deal, just like when light skin dudes were really really popping in the 90's early 2000's instead of crying and blowing it up you just deal and wait for the shift which ALWAYS comes.

Women don't deal with stuff like this the same on a larger scale. If you make a thread on preferring light skin women you gonna get women looking at you with shade and dudes but if you turn around and make the same thread about women preferring tall men you gonna get women and men that come in


because if you prefer light skin women there's clearly some underlying issue, its not just a preference. But if they prefer a taller guy its just what they like.



Its part of being a man, you deal with alot of unfair shyt that wont ever get recognized on a larger scale because that's what men do.



All in all what does it even matter, recognize what it is and keep it moving. Women and men know its a double standard taller dudes don't care and women don't care. Its not even that serious, any of it...

 

[MalikX]

Call men short and inferior because you want to walk around on stilts, brehs

I'm sure when God/Mother Nature created us they felt 3-4 inches was a good difference. They aint think chicks would be wearing 5 inch platforms one day.

 

[Solo ✧✦✧]

Preferences are only a problem when men have them for the most part. If a man criticizes women for having preferences he's going to get shamed and insulted. Excuses are always lined up and ready for female preferences.

This is just another insult the OP for daps type of thread.