Curren$y Done Working With Alchemist For The Foreseeable Future

[AnonymityX1000]

U aren't gonna logically get anywhere wit that nikka u arguing with.

I mean I like Alchemist to but hop off his jock he's not infallible.

 

[Awesome Wells]

He isn't telling anyone to do anything. He is saying he doesn't appreciate what has happened in the past and due to that I'm making changes going forward. That's not emotional that's evaluation. Still dissing someone for what again? Oh, not promoting an album the way he sees fit from almost a decade ago. That's emotional IMO.

What I'm saying is, if his feelings were hurt that these shots were on whatever tracks, that's a personal thing for him.

So he voiced it. That's emotion. It bothered him. Having emotions isn't a bad thing. It is what it is. The point is, the rest of them don’t operate that way. Benny doesn't care about whatever Gibbs is doing with ALC. He's gonna get back in with ALC and do the same sh*t. Same way, Jeru, Premier, Pete Rock, B.I.G., Jay and Swizz, etc. didn't forever ago. There's a million examples.

Jeru didn’t tell Premier, “I can’t f*ck with you because you gave a beat to Biggie and he dissed me on it”. LOL!! Puff and B.I.G. told Premier, "We're coming for your man". Preem said he told them "Say what you gotta say". On HIS beat!

Premier said Jeru knew that his job is just to make the beats. “Ether” is probably one of the most known diss tracks ever. Jay wasn’t mad at Swizz for giving Nas a beat for it. He told Swizz he was cool with it. And just kept working with dude too. It’s Hip Hop.

Producers are supposed to be neutral. Cube left NWA and had issues with Eazy. But Dre still wanted to work on AMW, while he was working on NWA’s sh*t. The only reason it didn’t happen, was because Jerry stepped in and told Dre he wasn’t allowed to, contractually. But Dre was willing to just work with everybody. It’s always been that way with producers.

 

[O.Red]

Why nikkas trying so hard to make Currensy look mad?

 

[spliz]

Like I said before. I was on the "Al is neutral train as well". But when I heard Al say he ran it by Prodigy before he did beats for Nas to make sure it was cool. It lets me know when Al REALLY respects u like that he's not just gonna do that. Son was ready to pass up working with Nas for P. Ain't shyt neutral about that. It shows me that he def understands how shyt looks.

 

[spliz]

I mean I like Alchemist to but hop off his jock he's not infallible.

Alc one of the GOATS to me I been defending him for years on this site. But it is what it is.

 

[Awesome Wells]

This shyt is so stupid...should Jeezy feel a way toward Madlib since Gibbs was dissing him on Piñata and Bandana?

Gibbs and Alc aren't a duo, they collab together that's pretty much it. I feel why Currensy would feel that way but unless he feels Alchemist is actively helping Gibbs craft these disses I don't see why he would have an issue.

This right here.

MF's are too sensitive. Everybody got the same access and opportunities. This ain't Mean Girls, arguing over who gets to sit at the "cool table" together.

"Why are you over there letting another man say mean things about me? And since you are, then I can't be friends with you anymore!"

 

[T.H.E. Goat]

This right here.

MF's are too sensitive. Everybody got the same access and opportunities. This ain't Mean Girls, arguing over who gets to sit at the "cool table" together.

"Why are you over there letting another man say mean things about me? And since you are, then I can't be friends with you anymore!"

Exactly, plus I doubt Spitta would even mention the Larry June project without planning some sort of media push for it...so him and Alc and Larry will definitely have a video and maybe even a few interviews

 

[AnonymityX1000]

This right here.

MF's are too sensitive. Everybody got the same access and opportunities. This ain't Mean Girls, arguing over who gets to sit at the "cool table" together.

"Why are you over there letting another man say mean things about me? And since you are, then I can't be friends with you anymore!"

Some people when one of their friends talk shyt about another one of their friends when that person isn't around, they don't let it slide and check the shyt talking friend. I guess you are fine being quiet in that situation. Different strokes and shyt . . .

 

[Awesome Wells]

Some people when one of their friends talk shyt about another one of their friends when that person isn't around, they don't let it slide and check the shyt talking friend. I guess you are fine being quiet in that situation. Different strokes and shyt . . .

Regular friends...that's a personal thing. Very different.

Same way Ski let Spitta throw shots at Dame when he was still cool with both of them. Spitta was fine with it then.

This is music and business, bro. Just like Premier and Pete said.

Far from personal.

 

[Soymuscle Mike]

Like I said before. I was on the "Al is neutral train as well". But when I heard Al say he ran it by Prodigy before he did beats for Nas to make sure it was cool. It lets me know when Al REALLY respects u like that he's not just gonna do that. Son was ready to pass up working with Nas for P. Ain't shyt neutral about that. It shows me that he def understands how shyt looks.

He also stopped working for Lake and them after they set Prodigy up, which led to Lake having Alc robbed (which partly led to Nas and even Cormega bushing Lake musically). I think Prodigy/Mobb is the exception for Alc, he's super loyal to the point that I see him supporting Santana Fox's career more than Hav.

I get both sides here. Alc is a man for hire, sure. But Currensy also has a point. Alchemist didn't JUST produce that song, he did the entire album from his own concept on his own label and is with Freddie in the whole tour and all the promo - what's funny is there's a clip of Alc shouting out Currency with Gibbs sitting right there. He does say that Alchemist checked in with him, so he's real for that.

It's grown man shyt they can both feel a way about it, and I see both perspectives. Gibbs is harmless and clowns on everything and everyone, which I'm sure plays a part in why Alc allowed it.

Got me running that album back too, album of the year

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Regular friends...that's a personal thing. Very different.

Same way Ski let Spitta throw shots at Dame when he was still cool with both of them. Spitta was fine with it then.

This is music and business, bro. Just like Premier and Pete said.

Far from personal.

A few posts ago you said they were, "ALL friends". Using all caps even. Which is it?

 

[Awesome Wells]

Exactly, plus I doubt Spitta would even mention the Larry June project without planning some sort of media push for it...so him and Alc and Larry will definitely have a video and maybe even a few interviews

Right.

Larry just did one of the year's best albums with ALC. He's not talking sh*t about Spitta, to my knowledge, but he was still clearly touring with ALC and working with him and hanging with Gibbs. ALC is still shouting Spitta out in interviews. Larry's still cool with everybody. These dudes were all always around each other.

So now it becomes a "If you're still gonna be cool with that dude, I can't be cool with you anymore" thing? This ain't high school. It's the music business. You have an issue with somebody, get in the damn booth.

 

[Awesome Wells]

A few posts ago you said they were, "ALL friends". Using all caps even. Which is it?

They're friends from music. Not regular friends. I made the distinction by saying "regular" friends last post, for a reason.

These are artists and producers. Not 16 year old dudes in high school.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

They're friends from music. Not regular friends. I made the distinction by saying "regular" friends last post, for a reason.

These are artists and producers. Not 16 year old dudes in high school.

Oh what's the difference?
If I call someone a 'friend' they are a friend regardless how we met.
I don't think age has much to do with it either.

 

[Awesome Wells]

Oh what's the difference?
If I call someone a 'friend' they are a friend regardless how we met.
I don't think age has much to do with it either.

Again, that's your personal take on it.

Problem is, we can't put our personal sh*t on how other people see it. Premier said Jeru was his friend and his artist. But he was also cool with B.I.G. He produced for B.I.G. while he was dissing another one of his friends, Nas. So should he have more loyalty to one over the other? Or should he focus more on the craft and treat them equally? That's for him to decide. He chose to produce for BOTH of them, just like he did with B.I.G. and Jeru. So regardless if they threw shots at each other. He considered both friends.

In all of these examples, it's the same sh*t. Pete said he was cool with Common AND Cube. But Common was the one that needed the beat. He gave it to him. Felt their issues didn't have anything to do with him. We're seeing the same perspective from ALC, Dre and mad other GOAT producers. They see themselves as neutral. They make the beats. They stay out the way. It's really that simple.