Curren$y & The Alchemist - The Carrollton Heist (Mixtape)

[Zero]

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Slow down on the reps breh!

@TheDarceKnight I got you next time I can rep homie

 

[TheDarceKnight]

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Slow down on the reps breh!

@TheDarceKnight I got you next time I can rep homie

I get the error a lot with you too man. I'm sure we'll rep each other soon!

 

[subletteafterdark]

Unrelated, my most anticipated ALC project that I believe could replace Covert Coup as my favorite would be an ALC/Freddie Gibbs tape. Devils Palace is practically ancient, not sure if we'll hear it as it originally was, but a collaborative album between the two of them makes for my most anticipated record of the last 3 years. Agree to disagree if you want, but Gibbs is best out right now. Piñata and SOD, not to mention ESGN among the other great tapes.

Back on topic, I wish Carrollton Heist AND Covert Coup dropped on vinyl. I'd play the records, but they'd also be framed up on the wall.

Probably goes without saying, but seems like a safe bet to say that Alchemist took at least 6-8 of these beats and vetted them out over the last 5 years for Carrollton Heist, knowing damn well that there was a lot riding on anticipation. We all knew about 96 (93) AMG beat from the year old YouTube video with King Los, but to me it seems very very likely that he'd had these around, and maybe would go back to them every now and then to listen to them to see if they were withstanding the test of time. At least, that's what I'm imagining, and I also would say that 6-8 of these will stand the test of time for my own taste. I'll come back to this project in 6 years and still feel the same way about these grooves. Fire.

To that end, ironically, is one reason why I liked Covert Coup more. The Coup project had a spontaneous sound to it. Much more experimentation, more risks, more punchiness, and then the tracks would suddenly fade out.
Lightning in a bottle.

 

[bigillwill06]

anybody got that 320 brehs?

 

[O.Red]

Check your PMs in 5-10 mins.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

It's a free mixtape so I'll just post it here

http://www.filedropper.com/currensy-thecarrolltonheist

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Unrelated, my most anticipated ALC project that I believe could replace Covert Coup as my favorite would be an ALC/Freddie Gibbs tape. Devils Palace is practically ancient, not sure if we'll hear it as it originally was, but a collaborative album between the two of them makes for my most anticipated record of the last 3 years. Agree to disagree if you want, but Gibbs is best out right now. Piñata and SOD, not to mention ESGN among the other great tapes.

Back on topic, I wish Carrollton Heist AND Covert Coup dropped on vinyl. I'd play the records, but they'd also be framed up on the wall.

Probably goes without saying, but seems like a safe bet to say that Alchemist took at least 6-8 of these beats and vetted them out over the last 5 years for Carrollton Heist, knowing damn well that there was a lot riding on anticipation. We all knew about 96 (93) AMG beat from the year old YouTube video with King Los, but to me it seems very very likely that he'd had these around, and maybe would go back to them every now and then to listen to them to see if they were withstanding the test of time. At least, that's what I'm imagining, and I also would say that 6-8 of these will stand the test of time for my own taste. I'll come back to this project in 6 years and still feel the same way about these grooves. Fire.

To that end, ironically, is one reason why I liked Covert Coup more. The Coup project had a spontaneous sound to it. Much more experimentation, more risks, more punchiness, and then the tracks would suddenly fade out.
Lightning in a bottle.

I know CH is dropping on vunyl, but yeah that'll oddly feel even more bad that CC probably won't.

I bet you're right that he saved up a few beats, but also on the other hand he cranks out beats and beats everyday and I think I heard something about at least a few of the records on CH being stuff they sort of found their way into as they kept recording. I know Cartridge and Black Rally Stripes were I think the 2 they recorded first.

A big part of that CC sound was just the fact that Gutter Water was really the only other project with any of those type of beats that marked the shift into the newer sound. Madlib and Oh No had a lot to do with that, as did Hip Hop (the guy, not the art form).

Gibbs is definitely my favorite rapper in the game and Piñata was my 2014 AOTY. I think Gibbs sounds incredible on sampled production and along with Nas, he'd be the one person I'd probably want a collab with the most. You;re right about Devil's Palace. They never got very far and honestly if they ever do it they should just start from scratch.

Gibbs kills every beat he's on and even though I don't like a lot of trap stuff I can listen to Gibbs on trap beats and I think it's really dope.

 

[onlylno]

Went for a late night drive with this in the whip. I'm gliding along half vacant streets with a lot on my mind. All I got with me is this tape blasting and a light drizzle smudging up the reflection of the street lights on my windshield.

I legit felt like I was in a noir film.




These Curren$y tapes are wormholes into iconic moments in cinema.

 

[Yaboysix]

Came in here to say that I love spitta.the nikka feeds his fans good man.


I used to think he was boring....but "boulders " nikka! I was eating some cat recently and that shyt came on for the first time.I stopped what i was doin with the quickness to listen lmao.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Went for a late night drive with this in the whip. I'm gliding along half vacant streets with a lot on my mind. All I got with me is this tape blasting and a light drizzle smudging up the reflection of the street lights on my windshield.

I legit felt like I was in a noir film.




These Curren$y tapes are wormholes into iconic moments in cinema.

Damn man, that's some vivid shyt right there.

Nice description. I tell people shyt like this and they think I'm stupid. Music can really take you into another zone.

 

[Suspicions]

Listening to PT3 and im appreciating it way more after not listening for a long time, this tape is starting to get better too

 

[ThaRealness]

I'd say Alchemist's collaging has improved greatly over the last 5 years since the release of Covert Coup, although the overall the immediate catchiness of Covert Coup melodies are uncontested.

Thats a good way to put it. I think Alc picked up some skills from Harry Fraud

 

[onlylno]

I'm hearing Madlib's influence throughout this tape.

 

[The Jewnited States]

Alc has been on fire. CC was great. I think alc laced both with heat but spitta was rapping better on CC


It'll be a travesty if devil's palace never comes out. Gibbs is the best out

 

[onlylno]

The soundstage on this one is larger than Covert Coup, but I would say that the overall melodies on Carrollton Heist are recessed.
Sonically, Carrollton Heist is gigantic, which is how it gets away with having less forward and less aggressive melodic ballads.

It's not fair to compare the two on a blow by blow, the two mixtapes are doritos to donuts.

That said, some elements are similar - familiar drum patterns - tracks with highly memorable 2 bar drum cadences over extended 4 or 8 bar instrumental sample sequence. I'd say Alchemist's collaging has improved greatly over the last 5 years since the release of Covert Coup, although the overall the immediate catchiness of Covert Coup melodies are uncontested.

Black Rally Stripes shows the growth of the dynamic between ALC and Curren$y, especially in the second half of the song. Curren$y seems more comfortable and at home on Carrollton Heist - one of the most organic flows on the entire project, not to mention how the beat melts from the initial soundtrack prog sample at the beginning, and drags its final intro note to a stretched sample that pulsates with the drums to create an entire beat aside from the looped hook at the end of every fourth bar.

Aside from the glaringly obvious attempts to tie in a theme using sound bites from movies, Carrollton Heist still would sound like a more cohesive project than Covert Coup. (maybe still arguable, but I think pacing on CH is more even-keel than CC)

I'd say you could find a parallel from each track on Covert Coup for each track of Carrollton Heist (someone had asked about a Blood Sweat and Gears equivalent - 500 Pounds Of Gas comes to mind based on its similar intricacies (but I also can't help but tie the production of 500 Pounds Of Gas to the arpeggiator inspired beats from Boldy James and Alchemist's M1CS album)).

As TheDarceKnight summed up well, Covert Coup is nearly bulletproof.
Also, it's had 5 solid years to marinate - I catch myself reminiscing of all of the good times that I had while listening to Covert Coup, and those moments will more than likely outnumber any other project I've been listening to in the last 5 years.
Carrollton Heist kept me in a good place for the last couple of days. I'm not sure another Covert Coup is remotely possible, there has to be a lot of luck involved in creating a project that is that good - it was stupid - and most of all, it was a project that no one had clear set expectations of - Alchemist was trying an untested style while shooting from the hip with those types of beats, and Curren$y had never worked extensively with ALC prior to (really, just an unlikely musical pairing as far as I'm concerned based on Curren$y's catalogue prior to).

Great post, but I'm like 90% certain that "collage" style came from Madlib.



Alchemist most certainly put his spin on it. But the core mechanics of that style are straight off the beat konductor series.