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So Lebron holding the ball for 20 seconds at the top of the key has nothing to do with it? Butttt butttt buttt Kobe makes his team mates worse because he never allows em to get into a rhythm
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No, Kobe makes his team better with his spectacular defense :troll:
 

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Bosh has complained OPENLY about wanting more touches in the post a LOOOOOOONG time ago. He complained about not getting touches in the low post back in year 1 of the Big 3 formation


fukk you been out my g?:dahell:


I guess yall Bron stans dont really care about the rest of the team:snoop:

Chris Bosh of Miami Heat looking for more touches on offense - ESPN


Chris Bosh sounds off following loss
Updated: March 9, 2011, 1:02 PM ET
By Brian Windhorst | ESPN.com

MIAMI -- In the midst of their worst losing streak of the season and under significant pressure and scrutiny, the Miami Heat are starting to show some cracks.

Chris Bosh complained about his season-long role in the team's offense in the wake of the Heat's 105-96 loss to the Portland Trail Blazers on Tuesday night, the Heat's fifth straight defeat.

"It is common sense, we can talk about it, but I think it's evident," Bosh said. "I just have to get it where I'm effective. I'm a big man. I can shoot the ball but I'm a big man. So I have to get it where big guys get it. Then I feel I can start helping out this team more."


Meanwhile, Dwyane Wade hinted that Heat coach Erik Spoelstra may need to re-evaluate the rotation. The Heat's bench was outscored 41-8 by the Blazers after scoring just six total points in last Sunday's loss to the Chicago Bulls. The team's rotation changed recently with the addition of point guard Mike Bibby, who signed last week.

"Hopefully guys can be aggressive and contribute more," Wade said. "There are guys on the bench that can help us, no question about it. That is all on coach. We've had guys like Eddie [House] help us win games and James Jones, etc. He's going to have to decide whether or not people are on the floor."

Bosh's comments came after one of his worst games of the season, scoring just seven points on 3-of-11 shooting. He was outplayed down the stretch by Blazers power forward LaMarcus Aldridge, who had 26 points.

At the center of Bosh's complaint was not getting more touches in the low post. As part of the Heat's offense this season, Bosh has operated out of the high post and taken mostly jump shots while being a screen-setter for teammates Wade and LeBron James. Bosh said he planned to raise the issue with teammates and Spoelstra.

"I've got to get back in my comfort zone, I haven't been in my comfort zone," Bosh said. "A lot of things are new for me. I just have to be more aggressive in demanding my [the ball] comfort zone, you know I'll take the fault for that... I'm effective down in the low post area, so that is where I need to start getting the ball. I need to be assertive in demanding it."

Bosh has seen his scoring average dip about six points a game this season as he's getting about three fewer shots per game than he did with the Toronto Raptors. His shots, however, are quite different.

According to Synergy Sports, 50 percent of Bosh's shots have been jumpers this season. Last year, only 31 percent of his shots were jumpers.

Going public with his frustration may have been a carryover from Sunday, when Bosh scored 23 points on 9-of-14 shooting but only got one shot in the fourth quarter. Then against the Blazers, Bosh was guarded routinely by the smaller Gerald Wallace in the first half but the Heat did not call plays for him or look for him in the post.

"I'm saying what I need to do as a player, a closed mouth doesn't get fed," Bosh said. "I'm uncomfortable now so you might as well do something else. If there's a disagreement or something, that's fine, we can talk about it. If they don't want that, that's OK, but I just feel that I have to be my normal self. I'm not there right now. I haven't been there many times this season."

During the preseason, Bosh seemed to be on board with the new niche the Heat were carving out for him that didn't include as much time in the low post.

"I never really like to bump against people that are a lot, lot bigger than me," Bosh said in October. "I'm not the biggest guy in the world. Coach is going to put him in that position sometimes. He's not going to hang me out to dry. He's going to put me in there when we have an advantage."

Wade, who combined with James to score 69 of the Heat's 96 points in the loss, said he'll attempt to address Bosh's concerns.

"I think throughout this year we've all had spells where we wanted the ball more," Wade said.

"That is what we're used to. Whenever one of our teammates comes to us and says 'I can help us more in this situation' we'll do our best to make it happen. It's the time of the year when I know I'll be very aggressive and I know LeBron will be very aggressive. We have to figure out ways to help Chris to be more aggressive and understand this moment. It is our duty and our job to make sure at this time of year, when Chris hasn't been in too many of these situations, that Chris is more productive. He can be more productive for us."

Brian Windhorst covers the NBA for ESPN.com.

Come on breh.....follow YOUR team better:ufdup:


The article shows you that in Toronto, Bosh's shot jumpers only 31% of the time. His first year with the Heat.....he was already at 50% of his shots being jumpers:snoop:



The LeBron System:rudy:

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how quickly you reactionary nikkas forget how good Wade was this season.

22-5-5 on 55% shooting :what: and during part of that 27 game win streak, Wade was playing better than Bron.

DUDE IS fukkING INJURED. ITS NOT LIKE HE'S PLAYING LIKE ASS CUZ HE'S OLD.

In this case it's a combo of injured/old. As you get old your knees go bad. This is a fact of life. You can pretend he's still 26 if you want but it's pretty obvious he's not the same player.

Injuries are a part of the game and they can derail careers. look at Chris Paul, he's clearly not the same player he was before his injury but he adjusted his game so he can still be effective. Wade MUST develop a jumpshot because he will NEVER be the same player he was due to injury and age. It's that simple.
 

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how quickly you reactionary nikkas forget how good Wade was this season.

22-5-5 on 55% shooting :what: and during part of that 27 game win streak, Wade was playing better than Bron.

DUDE IS fukkING INJURED. ITS NOT LIKE HE'S PLAYING LIKE ASS CUZ HE'S OLD.

I don't know if you know this but Bosh is a little confused. He doesn't know if he's straight or gay, a human or a dinosaur, a big or a wing. Bosh said he didn't want to play 5. So is he a big or what? Bosh bulked up but also started working on his 3 point shot. So wtf, b?

Truth is Bosh's midrange game is what helped Miami the most. He used his outside shooting to draw bigs out of the lane creating space for Bron and Wade to get to the cup. And he was effective. But now he seems to have lost his confidence and can't hit an open shot.

If Bosh wants to be a big man so bad gimme more than 4 rebounds in 35 minutes. :stopitslime:
 

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In this case it's a combo of injured/old. As you get old your knees go bad. This is a fact of life. You can pretend he's still 26 if you want but it's pretty obvious he's not the same player.

Injuries are a part of the game and they can derail careers. look at Chris Paul, he's clearly not the same player he was before his injury but he adjusted his game so he can still be effective. Wade MUST develop a jumpshot because he will NEVER be the same player he was due to injury and age. It's that simple.

Wade needs a jumper and he needs to reinvent his game as you alluded to..

But the question is,is he too proud to do it?

He talks like he can be the D-Wade of old even if his body is telling him otherwise
 

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Wade needs a jumper and he needs to reinvent his game as you alluded to..

But the question is,is he too proud to do it?

He talks like he can be the D-Wade of old even if his body is telling him otherwise

Yeah he's kidding himself. 30+ with bad knees means you can't do the shyt you were doing 5 years ago. In 10 years he never developed a shot. Now his career will be cut short because of it.

I think it might be too late for him. Who learns how to shoot after age 30? His "Flash" days are definitely over so what's next Mr. Wade?
 

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Yeah he's kidding himself. 30+ with bad knees means you can't do the shyt you were doing 5 years ago. In 10 years he never developed a shot. Now his career will be cut short because of it.

I think it might be too late for him. Who learns how to shoot after age 30? His "Flash" days are definitely over so what's next Mr. Wade?

Wade would be a good 6th man in the Ginobli vein..

I think he can still be a decent player,but in spurts and with less Lebron...
 
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In this case it's a combo of injured/old. As you get old your knees go bad. This is a fact of life. You can pretend he's still 26 if you want but it's pretty obvious he's not the same player.

Injuries are a part of the game and they can derail careers. look at Chris Paul, he's clearly not the same player he was before his injury but he adjusted his game so he can still be effective. Wade MUST develop a jumpshot because he will NEVER be the same player he was due to injury and age. It's that simple.

ehhh, I dont think we know what the extent of his injury is, and im not convinced its just a bone bruise, but I dont think its fair to say he's injured because of his age when we dont know what exactly the injury is, especially considering that he's been pretty injury-prone his whole career.

Wade DOES need to change up his game a bit in the offseason however, because he will inevitably lose his quickness considering injury/age or not, I'll agree with you there.

But nikkas in this thread talkin bout amnestying him cuz his career is over :why:

how fukkin shortsighted do you have to be to believe that shyt? :beli:
 

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ehhh, I dont think we know what the extent of his injury is, and im not convinced its just a bone bruise, but I dont think its fair to say he's injured because of his age when we dont know what exactly the injury is, especially considering that he's been pretty injury-prone his whole career.

Wade DOES need to change up his game a bit in the offseason however, because he will inevitably lose his quickness considering injury/age or not, I'll agree with you there.

But nikkas in this thread talkin bout amnestying him cuz his career is over :why:

how fukkin shortsighted do you have to be to believe that shyt? :beli:

Injury is one thing. Age is another. Wade is dealing with both.

Either will force a player to have to change their game. Again, Wade is dealing with both. Players have played injured before. Players have played while aging before. But again, Wade is dealing with both. Again, both cause you to have to change your game but Wade has not.

If he was just old, he'd still have to change. But he's old AND hurt which means he really needs to change. But he hasn't shown the ability to change his game.

He said he worked with a shooting coach for the first time last offseason which was good but :what: at the same time because he's never had a J and shoulda been working with a shooting coach. But anyways, it doesn't seem to have helped because he still can't shoot.

No one is mad at Wade for getting old and being injured. I'm mad at Wade for not adjusting his game accordingly. Now he's being paid like a superstar when he's clearly not.
 
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