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Brother you not getting the point. He's not flopping because he has no high profile features and you don't need a label to network with other artists or get a hook or beat or verse today that is up to par. This hasn't been the case in over 10 years.

With technology today there is very little barrier to making QUALITY music besides talent. That's reality.

Dababy didn't have hit songs because he was given them so you made an irrelevant point. He wasn't a pop singer crooning other people's songs :laff:

He came in with his own formula not "they" his own producers not "they". You dudes still think this is back in the day with that old industry talk. Budgets hampering recording n shyt. :duck:
Budgets don’t hamper recording but budgets play a big part in what platform your music actually receives a push on.

DaBaby in a position where he can’t even buy his way onto a playlist though. He pissed off the wrong people, then tried to double down on some bold shyt.

He’s actually blackballed. People aren’t wrong about that.

Y’all really think this music game is a meritocracy, it’s not. Most artists success is all dependent on who’s hands they shake, what ass they kiss, and which powerful people you have in your corner for whatever reason.

The machine put him on, so the machine can turn him off.

They can’t do a Youngboy, Yeat, Russ, Kodak like that because they built their fan base and numbers organically over time.
 

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Budgets don’t hamper recording but budgets play a big part in what platform your music actually receives a push on.

DaBaby in a position where he can’t even buy his way onto a playlist though. He pissed off the wrong people, then tried to double down on some bold shyt.

He’s actually blackballed. People aren’t wrong about that.

Y’all really think this music game is a meritocracy, it’s not. Most artists success is all dependent on who’s hands they shake, what ass they kiss, and which powerful people you have in your corner for whatever reason.

The machine put him on, so the machine can turn him off.

They can’t do a Youngboy, Yeat, Russ, Kodak like that because they built their fan base and numbers organically over time.
ok but that's still a disingenuous argument. nothing we talking about is explaining why his music and recording is so bad on that joint

take in mind he was signed while making his own music and it didn't sound this bad...

most of y'all industry points are outdated. nobody in this generation blew up on radio they blew up then radio... you can be on playlists without a label. we had a whole cloud rap era of dudes that were literally made on soundcloud.

all this old gatekeeping talk is outdated. you really just talking about radio and video budgets.

nobody in here is saying they don't like his music anymore because of gays telling them not to, they are saying it has fallen off :heh:

@Son_Of_God made up a whole incident about some gay bashing song like people forgot it was what he said on stage that got him in trouble with alphabet gang. dudes just be on some bullshyt with that conspiracy shyt so much they used to lying to themselves they don't even fact check their own bullshyt. if he is allegedly black balled they were wrong about the why which was the entire joke... :snoop:
 

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ok but that's still a disingenuous argument. nothing we talking about is explaining why his music and recording is so bad on that joint

take in mind he was signed while making his own music and it didn't sound this bad...

most of y'all industry points are outdated. nobody in this generation blew up on radio they blew up then radio... you can be on playlists without a label. we had a whole cloud rap era of dudes that were literally made on soundcloud.

all this old gatekeeping talk is outdated. you really just talking about radio and video budgets.

nobody in here is saying they don't like his music anymore because of gays telling them not to, they are saying it has fallen off :heh:

@Son_Of_God made up a whole incident about some gay bashing song like people forgot it was what he said on stage that got him in trouble with alphabet gang. dudes just be on some bullshyt with that conspiracy shyt so much they used to lying to themselves they don't even fact check their own bullshyt. if he is allegedly black balled they were wrong about the why which was the entire joke... :snoop:
Dude I work in the industry, getting major playlisting without a label is hard, it’s literally one of the only reasons I ever recommend an artist to sign to a major label.

Major labels using YouTube Trueview like everybody else, they don’t have a magic machine to make your videos go up, other than playing with tags. And Trueview is expensive. They have their bot views, but those don’t translate to real new fans, they have to use Trueview to expose their artist to new fans unless they’re spreading by word of mouth.

That an easy 250k off the budget in itself just to get an artist a decent buzz, you wanna become a niche or regional star you entering the millions out your marketing budget. But labels will basically front the marketing budget infinitely if your songs are catching at a good rate. Blows the song up but puts you deeper in the red with the label.

So for these “superstars” y’all see their labels are still putting multiple millions up each term in marketing to expose fans to the music. The internet was the Wild West 7 years ago, labels bought up every music tech company and monopolized it. Spotify is basically owned/extorted by the major labels.

Coming from someone that has worked with millions worth of budgets.

And lol he didn’t make a song about gay bashing but he made a joke at rolling loud about some gay shyt going on in the crowd/parking lot and mentioned AIDS, then the gays got upset, like we don’t know they struggle with AIDS.

Then he embraced Tory at Rolling Loud when he was supposed to be blackballed and it was a wrap for him.

When you stop getting playlisting and then you have people at these DSPs with political motivations to demote you in the algorithm (which is happening, same way IG, Twitter, and TikTok all admit they can control what you see in your feed at the push of a button), it becomes easy to fall off a cliff as an artist whose success wasn’t so much a product of a hardcore fanbase but knowing how to play the system and turn a profit consistently. DaBaby was on his business I respected it, I had never really been a fan but I respected that he was making the most of his run and doing progressive business from an artist standpoint.

Arnold Taylor of SCMG is one of the black execs actually doing what he was supposed to be doing for the artist in his region (The Carolinas), and DaBaby was the cashcow allowing them to make a lot of those moves.

Like I said, I work in this industry. I see things from a different angle, that’s why I feel the way I feel about these situations.

Long ass post.
 
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