DACA - DREAM ACT - Immigration Reform Thread

[CASHAPP]

there are a lot of reason's its net zero but including the fact that amnesty did not look likely, but if they pass amnesty then people will know that if they sneak in the next day and stay for 20 years they will get amnesty in 2030

and also the other issue is that amnesty causes chain migration, if the 11 million become citizens they can bring other people with their families, that is how hispanics became the largest minority, and that was with just 3 million people, imagine what happens when you legalize 11 million

Okay point taken but do you think the security being the highest it has ever been with the lowest chance of getting by.....that they would all of a sudden start getting weaker again?

And I don't think people are realizing that there were some differences with the 1986 "amnesty" people love to talk about. Now that I think about it I think the amnesty then was the 1986 version of "Deferred action" in June 2012.

I think you are comparing 86 and now way too much. In the case of today, with the security and everything being more advanced and stronger.....since this time the "illegals" all it would take is for them to sponsor for their families......since now they have no chance but to do that since the government is gonna do the right thing with "comprehensive immigration reform" and make sure its extremely secured.

So this time around students and young people will have no choice but to just sponsor for their family if they want them to be with them.

 

[IrishBrother]

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I think you are comparing 86 and now way too much. In the case of today, with the security and everything being more advanced and stronger.....since this time the "illegals" all it would take is for them to sponsor for their families......since now they have no chance but to do that since the government is gonna do the right thing with "comprehensive immigration reform" and make sure its extremely secured.

So this time around students and young people will have no choice but to just sponsor for their family if they want them to be with them.

Eh, the sponsors of the 1986 amnesty freely admit that countless people fraudulently obtained legalization because the system simply could not be adequately policed. Amnesty is almost to guaranteed produce a glut of law suits that would choke the system and inevitably lead to rubber stamp approvals of almost every application. Its a once every 20 year free green card. A scammers paradise.

 

[theworldismine13]

Okay point taken but do you think the security being the highest it has ever been with the lowest chance of getting by.....that they would all of a sudden start getting weaker again?

And I don't think people are realizing that there were some differences with the 1986 "amnesty" people love to talk about. Now that I think about it I think the amnesty then was the 1986 version of "Deferred action" in June 2012.

I think you are comparing 86 and now way too much. In the case of today, with the security and everything being more advanced and stronger.....since this time the "illegals" all it would take is for them to sponsor for their families......since now they have no chance but to do that since the government is gonna do the right thing with "comprehensive immigration reform" and make sure its extremely secured.

So this time around students and young people will have no choice but to just sponsor for their family if they want them to be with them.

i would say security is ok, its not great its not bad, but the 1986 amnesty was real amnesty, its nothing like deferred action and it only takes 7 years to become a citizen, so by the 90's almost all the people became citizens and started sponsoring their families, plus people left their illegal jobs which opened jobs for other illegals,

so basically the minute you grant amnesty that basically adds 11 million people competing with american citizens for jobs and opens up jobs for other illegals and it starts another wave of chain migration

im not understanding how black people are winning by any of this

 

[TRUEST]

you can walk into america from canada through maine. i did it myself and left the same way two weeks later. got offered a job in boston but fook that illegal immigrant life. its better here anyway.

that simple, bro. more chance of getting caught by a bear than border patrol.

i was an illegal tourist for two weeks.

but i digress, as an immigrant, i believe immigrants must adhere to the host nations laws,visa procedures and customs. not break them.

come on now. when was this? several years ago? and wait a minute, u say ur from canada? and yes, while u r indeed an immigrant, ur not on the same level as those people from distant lands. man, step foot in a third world country. live there for a month and see why people will do whatever they have to do get the fucck out.

i dont blame them one bit for "breaking" the law. what im against is them coming here and being involved in gangs. i think those are the folks that should be sent back. but most illegal immigrants are head of households just looking to provide for their family. if ur not gonna give a man food, at least dont cut off his hands so he cant get it anywhere else. thats heartlessness.

 

[IrishBrother]

come on now. when was this? several years ago? and wait a minute, u say ur from canada?

2009.

From Nigeria, living in ireland, now a citizen.

 

[TRUEST]

2009.

From Nigeria, living in ireland, now a citizen.

wait, your a dark ass n1gga directly from Africa, with a ridiculous whiteboy name like "IrishBrother", and ur here arguing against illegal immigrants like white racists often do. did u think by doing this ur somewhat sophisticated? here i am thinking i'm talking an ignorant white boy who dont know any better. but nah, its some idiot from africa who most likely worships the floor white people walk on. get the fucck outta here, u weirdo

 

[theworldismine13]

wait, your a dark ass n1gga directly from Africa, with a ridiculous whiteboy name like "IrishBrother", and ur here arguing against illegal immigrants like white racists often do. did u think by doing this ur somewhat sophisticated? here i am thinking i'm talking an ignorant white boy who dont know any better. but nah, its some idiot from africa who most likely worships the floor white people walk on. get the fucck outta here, u weirdo

because the 10 million people that you want to give amnesty too are just as racist against blacks as any white person, thats what you dont get

unlike hispanics the vast majority of africans and caribbean are here legally, its pathetic of you to try to use the few that are illegal as an excuse to give amnesty to 11 million and the eventual 30 million that will follow

 

[IrishBrother]

wait, your a dark ass n1gga directly from Africa, with a ridiculous whiteboy name like "IrishBrother", and ur here arguing against illegal immigrants like white racists often do. did u think by doing this ur somewhat sophisticated? here i am thinking i'm talking an ignorant white boy who dont know any better. but nah, its some idiot from africa who most likely worships the floor white people walk on. get the fucck outta here, u weirdo

An unskilled, borderline illiterate AA calls for the legalisation of 11 - 30 million competitors in an already saturated labour market.

In other news, turkeys voted for christmas.

 

[Calmye]

Ur puerto rican. U should be just as mad idiot.

 

[RicanFury]

Ur puerto rican. U should be just as mad idiot.

tell me why

 

[TRUEST]

because the 10 million people that you want to give amnesty too are just as racist against blacks as any white person, thats what you dont get

unlike hispanics the vast majority of africans and caribbean are here legally, its pathetic of you to try to use the few that are illegal as an excuse to give amnesty to 11 million and the eventual 30 million that will follow

actually,this is not true. another reason why your a moron.

secondly, lets say there are 4 milllion africans/carribeans in the states. and the remaining are mexicans. ur basically saying the 4 million should suffer so as to not give the remaining 7 million the opportunity to get jobs. you're an idiot.

and by the way, no one really knows how many illegal immigrants are here in the states. the 11 million number is bullsh1t. how can u count the undocumented. u cant. they're in the fuccking shadows for a reason.

now, try again. u keep failing. but i'll give u another chance. try harder.

 

[theworldismine13]

actually,this is not true. another reason why your a moron.

secondly, lets say there are 4 milllion africans/carribeans in the states. and the remaining are mexicans. ur basically saying the 4 million should suffer so as to not give the remaining 7 million the opportunity to get jobs. you're an idiot.

and by the way, no one really knows how many illegal immigrants are here in the states. the 11 million number is bullsh1t. how can u count the undocumented. u cant. they're in the fuccking shadows for a reason.

now, try again. u keep failing. but i'll give u another chance. try harder.

actually is it true the vast majority of african and caribbean immigrants are legal and the vast majority of illegals are not black Demographics of Unauthorized Immigrants in the US: Countries of Origin, States of Residence, and Employment Data, 2000-2008 - Illegal Immigration - ProCon.org

so you look like a clown fighting for people to stay in this country that dont give a fuk about you

second of all you're the moron, you accused me of misrepresenting your position but you have never explained how i misrepresented you

and if you dont know how many illegal aliens are then where the hell do you get 4 million africans and caribbeans from, but yeah if there were 4 million african caribbeans illegals i would say they need to self deport, people like obama's aunt and uncle are an embarrassment to black people and the president

and if you dont know how many illegal aliens that also means that there could 20 million illegals

but i didnt come up with 11 million How Do We Know There Are 11 Million Undocumented Immigrants? - ABC News you can take it up with them if you dispute the 11 million

 

[TRUEST]

actually is it true the vast majority of african and caribbean immigrants are legal and the vast majority of illegals are not black Demographics of Unauthorized Immigrants in the US: Countries of Origin, States of Residence, and Employment Data, 2000-2008 - Illegal Immigration - ProCon.org

so you look like a clown fighting for people to stay in this country that dont give a fuk about you

second of all you're the moron, you accused me of misrepresenting your position but you have never explained how i misrepresented you

and if you dont know how many illegal aliens are then where the hell do you get 4 million africans and caribbeans from, but yeah if there were 4 million african caribbeans illegals i would say they need to self deport, people like obama's aunt and uncle are an embarrassment to black people and the president

and if you dont know how many illegal aliens that also means that there could 20 million illegals

but i didnt come up with 11 million How Do We Know There Are 11 Million Undocumented Immigrants? - ABC News you can take it up with them if you dispute the 11 million

the very first thing you need to do is go back to school and learn how to read. when u do that, take an additional course that'll teach u how to comprehend the words that you read. that is your homework for the next three days.

now, where did i say that i actually give a fucck about the mexicans? i dont hate them nor do i harbor any particular love for them. they're strangers to me. even if i hated them, being intellectually superior to you, i know its wise to not let my personal feelings against a particular group affect my actions towards other groups who may not fit in that group.

ur main argument, in fact, ur entire argument rest on the notion that "ooooo there are millions of illegal immigrants and they're mostly mexicans. i hate them. so lets not give any of the illegal immigrants papers. fucck em".

that is essentially what your saying and u keep proving ur inability to compete with me in this discussion.

complete the assignment i just gave u. and then try again. and oh, as for those links u provided, im curious, am i suppose to be impressed? did u even read the articles? im guessing not. because even if u did, i dont see how u woulda understood the point of it being as u haven't completed the homework i just assigned u.

 

[Rekkapryde]

I'm probably going to get deported

dont get our hopes up.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

LOL, comparing Africans and Asians who come here legally to these mexican jumpers is an insult, fukk outta here with that