DACA - DREAM ACT - Immigration Reform Thread

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Pretty random rant. What do latin people allegedly being racist have to do with immigration?
I take it you mean since they are racist they shouldn't be naturalized?
Something has to be done. Personally I never saw illegal immigrants as an important issue...
And the way congress and our political spectrum is it will probably never be resolved.
It's another stupid issue people like to wave around like gay marriage.

immigrants being racist has to do with what issues black people should be pushing and focusing on and what issues we should demand the government focus on

the thing is black people see white people being racist against immigrants and they automatically think they should side with illegal immigrants, which in terms of political and economic strategy i would assert is a bad idea

i think at the most illegal immigration should be a neutral issue for black people, thats the most positive statement i could make about it, but i dont see how black people are winning by allowing illegal immigration
 

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I will be curious to see what happens when the first illegal Haitian teenager tries to take advantage of this and gets the gas face from Homeland Security before getting shipped back to Port-au-Prince.
 

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Damn, Obama is really THIS much of a kewn?:what: (<----- Best smiley btw).

Not saying that these people necessarily deserve any kind ''amnesty'', but if you're going to be a fukking dictator and help out a bunch of Hispanic illegals (that really need to be sent back to their country, I really don't care if they were here since 1 years old, they should blame their fence hopping parents) then can some black folks get some love? This n!gga is the worst.
 

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Damn, Obama is really THIS much of a kewn?:what: (<----- Best smiley btw).

Not saying that these people necessarily deserve any kind ''amnesty'', but if you're going to be a fukking dictator and help out a bunch of Hispanic illegals (that really need to be sent back to their country, I really don't care if they were here since 1 years old, they should blame their fence hopping parents) then can some black folks get some love? This n!gga is the worst.

yeah i cant even defend obama on this, the only thing i can say to defend him is that he was forced to do this by a a bunch of corny ass liberals panicking and telling him he might lose if he doesnt do this

its a bad strategy IMO, i think any gains he makes will be balanced out by losing independents, he was better off on cruise control

these haitians actually went to the embassy and filed the proper paperwork like you are supposed to do, africans and caribbeans are playing by the rules and are getting screwed, mexicans and south americans dont play by the rules, they jump the border and overstay their visas and they get rewarded for it

on the side, they arent really getting rewarded, this order is so obtuse that the people receiving the relief will also get screwed but they will get screwed after re-election, there is no way any congress will ever pass amnesty or the dream act after this stunt
 

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Alot of companies on the low do not want their slave labor being jeopardized by following laws. That will just be more businesses that are sent overseas.
 

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Too bad Latino don't vote.

They have worse voting turnouts than blacks.

Obama must know Romney can't beat him or he's one of the dumbest President in history.

I have been a Obama supporter until now. He haven't done shyt for black people. shyt on real, black people was better off when Bush was in Office.
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Damn, Obama is really THIS much of a kewn?:what: (<----- Best smiley btw).

Not saying that these people necessarily deserve any kind ''amnesty'', but if you're going to be a fukking dictator and help out a bunch of Hispanic illegals (that really need to be sent back to their country, I really don't care if they were here since 1 years old, they should blame their fence hopping parents) then can some black folks get some love? This n!gga is the worst.

shyt like this makes me mad at Mexican people for running over here. If we would have all stayed where we were and gotten rid of the rampant corruption we wouldn't be over here scrubbing toilets and selling oranges. People here don't even fukking want us here but everyone wants to act like it's all love. People just assume shyt about Mexicans without ever studying the history of the country and what the U.S. and Europe did to it. Even it's own politicians only served they're best interest and never tried to move the country forward. Only one that ever did good was Luis Cardenas but they didn't teach us about him in school. Instead they glorify people like Pancho Villa who was a crook and rapist.

You say we should go back over the border and then what. Try and fit in with a culture that rejects me and doesn't accept me. Listen to music I don't understand, watch movies I don't understand, and try and follow a lifestyle I've never been accustomed too.

You say it's my parents fault for coming over here, so what now I gotta pay for what the people before me did or didn't do. fukkouttahere. I know this country is built for a select few and doesn't want me and never did but thats not gonna stop me for coming up and making the best of a situation I had no control over. If people are losing jobs or can't get jobs they need to shut there mouth and catch up. Stop bytching and moaning, and get in line with everyone else.

Then we got these fukking gangbangers and teenage girls popping kids left and right that the media loves to magnify. Idiots ruin it for everyone else and there retarded bigotry and ignorance is used to judge the rest of us. Open your fukking eyes and see that all that propaganda is to keep all of us separate. Divide and Conquer. It's not Mexicans that are giving your jobs away to foreign countries, it's not Mexicans sending it's poor to fight wars for bigger interest, it's not Mexicans that made a trillion dollars of this countries money vanish. You seem like a smart guy point those brains at the real enemy.
 

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shyt like this makes me mad at Mexican people for running over here. If we would have all stayed where we were and gotten rid of the rampant corruption we wouldn't be over here scrubbing toilets and selling oranges. People here don't even fukking want us here but everyone wants to act like it's all love. People just assume shyt about Mexicans without ever studying the history of the country and what the U.S. and Europe did to it. Even it's own politicians only served they're best interest and never tried to move the country forward. Only one that ever did good was Luis Cardenas but they didn't teach us about him in school. Instead they glorify people like Pancho Villa who was a crook and rapist.

You say we should go back over the border and then what. Try and fit in with a culture that rejects me and doesn't accept me. Listen to music I don't understand, watch movies I don't understand, and try and follow a lifestyle I've never been accustomed too.

You say it's my parents fault for coming over here, so what now I gotta pay for what the people before me did or didn't do. fukkouttahere. I know this country is built for a select few and doesn't want me and never did but thats not gonna stop me for coming up and making the best of a situation I had no control over. If people are losing jobs or can't get jobs they need to shut there mouth and catch up. Stop bytching and moaning, and get in line with everyone else.

Then we got these fukking gangbangers and teenage girls popping kids left and right that the media loves to magnify. Idiots ruin it for everyone else and there retarded bigotry and ignorance is used to judge the rest of us. Open your fukking eyes and see that all that propaganda is to keep all of us separate. Divide and Conquer. It's not Mexicans that are giving your jobs away to foreign countries, it's not Mexicans sending it's poor to fight wars for bigger interest, it's not Mexicans that made a trillion dollars of this countries money vanish. You seem like a smart guy point those brains at the real enemy.

Although you're venting, this is a pretty damn good post. My dad was from South America so I know a little bit about the rampant corruption that plagues Latin America. What Americans have a hard time comprehending is why Hispanics are so vocal and willing to fight the American government in regards to deportation, but they don't vocally fight the corruption in Latin America (at least the media doesn't show this). Like I would think Latin America would pop off the way the Middle East has at some point. But you know more about this than me, so school me if you want.

I honestly don't think Americans care about Latinos that embrace Americanism and genuinely want to contribute to the country. Americans (especially cacs) have a problem with Latinos that believe they should reap the benefits of being in the US, while simultaneously having unbridled loyalty to their country of origin. I have a homey whose fam is from El Salvador. He's been to El Salvador once in his lifetime, and he straight up told me that if the US and El Salvador ever went to war, he'd fight for El Salvador :comeon: This mentality is always gonna rub people the wrong way.

Parents brings their kids over here knowing the possible repercussions. But when the repercussions become a reality there's a lot of justifying why the law shouldn't be enforced. But there has to be some type of accountability and some threat of punishment so that this stops. I don't know what the solution is for this, but broad amnesty would encourage it to keep going on.

The cac media is always gonna portray the most negative aspects of any minority group. Unfortunately, a lot of the negative portrayals are self-inflicted and could be eradicated with a change of consciousness in the groups. I think the Latino community would be better served with embracing individuality instead of clinging to a culture that's hundreds of years old, and was born out of a necessity that no longer exist in today's society. Also, the cac media has an easy time portraying Hispanics negatively because few people in the Hispanic community stand up and check whatever foolishness is going on. Like when the black community is acting an ass, people like Bill Cosby, Cornell West etc. will stand up and berate people and urge them to do better. If some Hispanic leaders emerged and became vocal about their disapproval of high teen pregnancy rates, gangbangin', petty ethnic competitiveness with other minorities etc. then the media would have to fall back on some of their bullshyt and portray the full attributes of the community, and not just the negative.

Despite all this, the real enemy is the corporatations and elit*ts that keep us at each other's throats while they reap the benefits of a divided society.


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im not co-signing white american racism but immigrants from south america and mexico are just as racist against black people as any white american, ask trayvon martin

Every other race are racist against black people for the most part. :yeshrug:
 

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shyt like this makes me mad at Mexican people for running over here. If we would have all stayed where we were and gotten rid of the rampant corruption we wouldn't be over here scrubbing toilets and selling oranges. People here don't even fukking want us here but everyone wants to act like it's all love. People just assume shyt about Mexicans without ever studying the history of the country and what the U.S. and Europe did to it. Even it's own politicians only served they're best interest and never tried to move the country forward. Only one that ever did good was Luis Cardenas but they didn't teach us about him in school. Instead they glorify people like Pancho Villa who was a crook and rapist.

You say we should go back over the border and then what. Try and fit in with a culture that rejects me and doesn't accept me. Listen to music I don't understand, watch movies I don't understand, and try and follow a lifestyle I've never been accustomed too.

You say it's my parents fault for coming over here, so what now I gotta pay for what the people before me did or didn't do. fukkouttahere. I know this country is built for a select few and doesn't want me and never did but thats not gonna stop me for coming up and making the best of a situation I had no control over. If people are losing jobs or can't get jobs they need to shut there mouth and catch up. Stop bytching and moaning, and get in line with everyone else.

Then we got these fukking gangbangers and teenage girls popping kids left and right that the media loves to magnify. Idiots ruin it for everyone else and there retarded bigotry and ignorance is used to judge the rest of us. Open your fukking eyes and see that all that propaganda is to keep all of us separate. Divide and Conquer. It's not Mexicans that are giving your jobs away to foreign countries, it's not Mexicans sending it's poor to fight wars for bigger interest, it's not Mexicans that made a trillion dollars of this countries money vanish. You seem like a smart guy point those brains at the real enemy.

all i see in this post is childishness and selfishness, unless you can show that somebody is violating your civil rights or your human rights then you dont really have a case

white people not liking you or sending somebody back to their country is not a violation of civil rights or human rights, mexicans and americans have not liked each other for 2-300 years

nobody has to like you and if you are not following the rules then you dont have anything

if you are going to make a case you have to make a case based on the rule of law, because its the rule of law that is important not sob stories

the reality is that the us lets millions of immigrants in every year, what is so special about you that makes it that you dont have to follow the rules that all the other legal immigrants followed?
 
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