DAME DASH EXPLAINS HOW HE OUTGREW ROCAFELLA... 🟨 MATH HOFFA
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TheDarceKnight
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No doubt. And showing vulnerability is a strength in itself
seemorecizzy
Superstar
there's a difference between getting with an artist who already has a deal (stoute with nas), or signing an artist to a label and giving him a chance (jimmy iovine, kevin lyles etc).Dame’s spell is strong with you nggas man. We not talking about early years jay. Who gives a shyt. That’s that ngga shyt you can become king there’s always gon be a ngga ‘man I used to change that ngga diapers’
By ‘golden goose’ he’s clearly refering to what jay had become. Dame was on the ADMIN side. Just stay in the background do your job and make money.
Birdman, J Prince, Lyor, Jimmy iovine, Lucian Grange, Steve Stoute, Kevin Lyles, like gotdamn all the ADMIN from the early years of hip hop have now positioned themself with generational wealth and/or positions of power. None of these dudes have any fukin talent. They all just piggybacked off the talent. They leveraged their golden goose. All except for Dame dash
So I’m not fooled by all thr fluff, yea he makes good points here n there but business-wise him and Suge are all time bag fumblers
Jay-z was rapping from da 80s on and off and could Not get a record deal lol So Without dame investing and doing the "ADMIN" side, he had no other options lol.
You make it seem like he latched on to Jay, when no, no one was fukkin with jay, and he was the only one willing to invest in a fast rapping late 20s rapper. Him going da independent route back then was almost a guaranteed failure, and Dame was da only one who believed in him
Dame is only loyal to his ego.....
I’m damn near offended you felt the need to write all that
It’s 2023 my guy we all know the rocafella story.That has nothing to do with how Dame should have moved once the bag was secured and jay was a star. He should have moved smarter so he can stay in the ‘ja z business’. He did t, so the relationship ended. He was paid for his role in the start, including when they broke up. The end. What’s there to talk about?
It’s only ‘wrong’ when emotions are involved. From what we know of dame, and where jay has ascended to, CLEARLY jay made the right decision. Nggs like you still stuck on emotion. ‘But we made this together
‘ Tf that got to do with it
Cloud McFly
All Star
Not to take anything away from Dame, because he was an important part of the success, but you are making it seem like he did everything for Jay, and deserves all the credit, when that’s false. You say nobody wanted to sign Jay before Dame, but nobody wanted to sign him after he got with Dame either, thus leading to the birth of Roc-A-Fella, where all 3 (Jay, Dame, and Biggs) invested equally.
There are other cats that played huge roles in Jay getting on like Big Daddy Kane, DJ Clark Kent, and Irv Gotti. Dame wasn’t as successful before Jay, just like Jay wasn’t as successful before Dame. That’s why dude said if you deserve all the credit, just make another.
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Piff Perkins
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Damn right I'm hating on that piece of shyt. fukk Dame.
This notion jay z couldn’t get a record deal is overblown. They started shopping him in 94 heavy by early 95 he had a deal.
Exactly.
Birdman made another, Lyor made another, Kevin lyles made another, Jimmy Iovine has made another, Dr Dre has made another. Puff has made another.
The fact that Dame has not is on him, ESPECIALLY in such a lick of an industry. Nggas who were damn DJs while roc was on top are eating healthy off the industry. So many people have lapped him. The industry is designed for people in the background to eat. Dane dash found a way to be the only music exec to get jerked
Yet dame has folk fooled to think he got ‘tired’ of the music industry. Nah he burned bridges. Also his irrational ‘i treat business like the streets’ mentality
Awesome Wells
The Ghost of Jack Tripper
The thing about Dame, is that he definitely offends suckas.
Nothing he's saying is a lie. I was in the room during those Roc days. Everything he's saying today, he's always said. Even back then. Dame is a lot of things, but he's never been a liar. If you have an idea and a plan, he's always the first to back you. Both financially and otherwise. His whole sh*t has always been based on principles. But if you're not built the same way, or have never been around anyone that followed a certain code, you won't understand him.
So when he speaks out about certain sh*t, and people think it's just theatre, they're wrong. All the sh*t he goes off about really happened, and a lot of people who chose not to be loyal did dude dirty. And for someone like him, who's from where we're from, that's the worst violation ever. He's a standup dude, but the problem is, most people aren't. So the guys like him almost always have to go off on their own and build again, rather than be fake and go along with the phoniness. But that's what the music business is.
Nothing he's saying is a lie. I was in the room during those Roc days. Everything he's saying today, he's always said. Even back then. Dame is a lot of things, but he's never been a liar. If you have an idea and a plan, he's always the first to back you. Both financially and otherwise. His whole sh*t has always been based on principles. But if you're not built the same way, or have never been around anyone that followed a certain code, you won't understand him.
So when he speaks out about certain sh*t, and people think it's just theatre, they're wrong. All the sh*t he goes off about really happened, and a lot of people who chose not to be loyal did dude dirty. And for someone like him, who's from where we're from, that's the worst violation ever. He's a standup dude, but the problem is, most people aren't. So the guys like him almost always have to go off on their own and build again, rather than be fake and go along with the phoniness. But that's what the music business is.
ajnapoleon
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since you was there
was he wrong in any way he dealt with the roc situation when it was the big 3?
or like he acting like he did no wrong
thats the issue
The hate is real. He def has a big ego but it’s not that cut and dry life never is
Awesome Wells
The Ghost of Jack Tripper
It's not really my place to say, but I'll say, lol.
The issues were brewing way before the label breakup. And like I said in my other post, Dame is all about loyalty. That's the code. Jay is my guy, but he was making moves that only benefited himself, and was setting up deals and relationships for down the line that didn't involve Dame and Biggs. It just seemed like he started planning his own post-Roc career, but left everyone else out. I think that made Dame start doing petty sh*t in response, like giving out VP positions at the label to people Jay didn't like. After that, it was never the same.
So my opinion is that Jay should have been more loyal and that Dame should have handled how he responded to the situation much better.