Dan orlovsky and Rex Ryan not keeping the same energy with Josh allen

[BucciMane]

Horrible take by Ryan Clark, but he often has some horrible takes.

Josh Allen is one of the most defended and criticized QB's in the NFL. Anyone who says he isn't arguably the most criticized QB is just flat out wrong. He makes some really dumb plays sometimes, but also makes plays no other QB will make.

There is no way anyone with a functioning brain could have watched that game last night and come away thinking that it was Josh Allen's fault they lost. The sports discourse nowadays is just flat out lazy, and people just looking at the end result, and not how the game actually went.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

This notion cacs on TV don't defend Lamar is rooted in absolute nothingness when in fact some of his worst critics are actually black people. Shannon Sharpe, Stephen A, Bernard Pollard etc crossed a line when it comes to him plenty-a-time.

The whole "you're a complete bum unless you win a ring" thing is mainly a thing nikkas do anyway.

Yup. You can tell who actually watches these shows and who only vote by Twitter comments or video snippets going by the comments in this thread.

 

[BrehWyatt]

I haven't watched the video but I'm assuming RC is saying Josh Allen, despite playing well, deserves all the smoke for losing/choking in the playoffs because if this were Lamar (who had never had a good playoff game until Saturday vs. Houston), he'd be raked over the coals?

 

[Rekkapryde]

Horrible take by Ryan Clark, but he often has some horrible takes.

Josh Allen is one of the most defended and criticized QB's in the NFL. Anyone who says he isn't arguably the most criticized QB is just flat out wrong.

Dak and Lamar Jackson BY FAR. For White QBs, I do agree Josh is.

 

[Rekkapryde]

I haven't watched the video but I'm assuming RC is saying Josh Allen, despite playing well, deserves all the smoke for losing/choking in the playoffs because if this were Lamar (who had never had a good playoff game until Saturday vs. Houston), he'd be raked over the coals?

Pretty damn close. And RC gave Josh all the credit in the world. Basically said he did enough for them not to lose, but not enough to win.

 

[xXMASHERXx]

When Mahomes lost to Brady in 2018, I don't remember yall capping this hard for him. The conversation was that he shouldn't have let Brady get the ball back

 

[Bryan Danielson]

Bo with the real.

We (black people) talk about that exact shyt ALL THE TIME. Crehs get the benefit of the doubt....WE DON'T.

And that's the fukkin problem.

They literally changed the rules so lil Joshy can have a "fair shot". Must be fukkin nice.

and this is no shade to Josh, who is a legit beast. But he ain't 15, and cacs better deal with it. It's 15 and then everyone else.

He ain’t 15

But he still @xXMASHERXx and @EzekelRAGE MVP


(Don’t come for me, yall did this yall started this first. We even now! Call a truce)

 

[KFBF]

Horrible take by Ryan Clark, but he often has some horrible takes.

Josh Allen is one of the most defended and criticized QB's in the NFL. Anyone who says he isn't arguably the most criticized QB is just flat out wrong. He makes some really dumb plays sometimes, but also makes plays no other QB will make.

There is no way anyone with a functioning brain could have watched that game last night and come away thinking that it was Josh Allen's fault they lost. The sports discourse nowadays is just flat out lazy, and people just looking at the end result, and not how the game actually went.

To be fair he said it wasn't Allen's fault they lost, but the greats find a way for their teams to win.

 

[Rekkapryde]

When Mahomes lost to Brady in 2018, I don't remember yall capping this hard for him. The conversation was that he shouldn't have let Brady get the ball back

 

[BrehWyatt]

Pretty damn close. And RC gave Josh all the credit in the world. Basically said he did enough for them not to lose, but not enough to win.

Fair enough.

Josh should have run that ball 20+ times but it is what it is. We can sit and talk about how clean Josh played, and how Buffalo had a devastating bunch of injuries on defense, how Diggs didn't show up against a top-level defense and how they got into position to tie it, but when it comes down to it, Buffalo is not properly built to beat KC (or a full strength Cincy, for that matter) in the playoffs. Even if Josh Allen plays at a signficantly higher level in the postseason, as he has historically done.

It takes a certain type of team to beat Mahomes (mainly, one that can generate steady pressure without blitzing and rangy LBs who can kill all that improv shyt that Mahomes and Kelce will eat off of). Buffalo is not that team.

And while I wouldn't say Josh is why they lost, I'm sure there's a couple plays where if they get made, this is a different conversation.

 

[lightskin jermaine]

Allen choked the game away when it matters most. He went hero ball on that last drive instead of taking what the defense was giving them underneath.

 

[thelonious21]

Ryan Clark kept them in check

That nikka is a Hater fam..
I had to check him on his IG..
dude GLAZES Hurts and Lamar..
They Black so I respect it... but he a hater

 

[Rekkapryde]

Fair enough.

Josh should have run that ball 20+ times but it is what it is. We can sit and talk about how clean Josh played, and how Buffalo had a devastating bunch of injuries on defense, how Diggs didn't show up against a top-level defense and how they got into position to tie it, but when it comes down to it, Buffalo is not properly built to beat KC (or a full strength Cincy, for that matter) in the playoffs. Not as they are currently made up. It takes a certain type of team to beat Mahomes (mainly, one that can generate steady pressure without blitzing and rangy LBs who can kill all that improv shyt that Mahomes and Kelce will eat off of). Buffalo is not that team.

And while I wouldn't say Josh is why they lost, I'm sure there's a couple plays where if they get made, this is a different conversation.

sometimes you just unlucky too. shyt happens.

But not enough people are talking about the fact it was a game tying field goal, they making it seem like a game winning FG.

Let's say they score the FG and then Pat walks down the field and sets up the score and the Bills still lose. Then what?

 

[In The Zone '98]

Good arguments on both sides

 

[BrehWyatt]

sometimes you just unlucky too. shyt happens.

But not enough people are talking about the fact it was a game tying field goal, they making it seem like a game winning FG.

Let's say they score the FG and then Pat walks down the field and sets up the score and the Bills still lose. Then what?

It's the same conversation. They say it on TV all the time, you need TDs to beat Kansas City.

But this is always going to be the talk until wins are no longer a QB-only stat.