Dan orlovsky and Rex Ryan not keeping the same energy with Josh allen

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shyt I'm sure allen and lamar would love to have kelce.

Kelce >> diggs and andrews. Always shows up come playoff time.
Healthy Andrews has been second only to Kelce most of this era. Kittle too inconsistent

Regardless, as we’ve seen this year with the Chiefs, even the greatest TE can only have so much impact when the receivers aren’t up to snuff.

1. All the attention shifts to the TE without other receiving options, which is easier to do than a WR since they generally operate in the heart of the defense anyway, and makes life that much harder on the TE. Had nikkas thinking Kelce was washed, even tho he had all the defense’s att’n until Rice came on. And his stats were still near the top of TEs with games missed.

2. Receivers stretch the field in a way a TE can’t without blown coverage. Look how much impact MVS dropping ass had with just two big catches yesterday. Chiefs are literally at least 2 drops from 2 more wins off the top of my head, probably more.
 

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Allen had some questionable decisions but lets be real for a minute his receivers dropped what should have been 2 TDs and Bills D was playing like 5- 3rd stringers....Everyone is gonna go on this Bills/Allen choking ramble but truth is they were missing too many starters...

NONE OF THOSE DROPPED PASSES
WOULD HAVE BEEN TD CATCHES.

THEY WOULD HAVE PUT THEM
IN POSITION TO SCORE

BUT YOU CAN STOP CLAIMING
THEY DROPPED 2 TDS


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Man fukk all this soft pillow shyt :heh: Peyton Manning got 2 rings and is 3-2 against Brady in the playoffs and he is known as a playoff choker. He had nikkas miss kicks, drop the ball, not show up, defense fukk up, didnt get the ball in OT and what did we hear after each instance? Peyton didnt get it done. But for some reason with Allen we have suddenly discovered this is a team game? Lamar was just under the most pressure all last week. No discussion of all the stuff outside if him that has impacted his playoff performance. I am all for expanding the dialogue but not just to be tender to one nikka.
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Healthy Andrews has been second only to Kelce most of this era. Kittle too inconsistent

Regardless, as we’ve seen this year with the Chiefs, even the greatest TE can only have so much impact when the receivers aren’t up to snuff.

1. All the attention shifts to the TE without other receiving options, which is easier to do than a WR since they generally operate in the heart of the defense anyway, and makes life that much harder on the TE. Had nikkas thinking Kelce was washed, even tho he had all the defense’s att’n until Rice came on. And his stats were still near the top of TEs with games missed.

2. Receivers stretch the field in a way a TE can’t without blown coverage. Look how much impact MVS dropping ass had with just two big catches yesterday. Chiefs are literally at least 2 drops from 2 more wins off the top of my head, probably more.
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The goal post moving they do on here is insane. "If Allen is that dude, he's supposed to elevate the WR core around him" :yeshrug: :yeshrug: :yeshrug: :yeshrug:
 

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To be fair Rex defended Dak and said it wasn’t his fault
That's the funniest thing about these double standard takes. Rex was one of the few guys to defend Dak while black people have been gleefully slandering him.



Surprisingly there weren't any tweets/threads about this take.
 
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He did elevate Shakir and Diggs had his best years in Buffalo...
The point is that when we point out that Mahomes WRs were trash that was the response. I'm not trying to hear folks cry about Diggs not being as good as Kelce. If Josh Allen is that dude then he needs to find a way to get it done. Simple as that :camby: :camby: :camby: :camby: :camby:
 

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Can't expect to always have a clean pocket so with the game on the line you gotta make sure you get a good throw off.

You watch Stroud and he's always stepping up in the pocket or taking a step to the side so he can throw. That's as a rookie. I still think Josh Allen struggles because he's not a natural pocket passer and in big moments you see him make mistakes because of it.

He had space to adjust to the rush
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The hit came as he was throwing, if he steps up, that balls probly in the stands, but i understand your point, and that may not be his bag, but he can throw that thang a country mile
 

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The goal post moving they do on here is insane. "If Allen is that dude, he's supposed to elevate the WR core around him" :yeshrug: :yeshrug: :yeshrug: :yeshrug:
I stand by that statement 100%, which is why I don’t like hearing the argument that top QB’s need #1 receivers.

That goes for Mahomes, Allen or anyone you want to claim is one of the best QBs in the league.
 

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The goal post moving they do on here is insane. "If Allen is that dude, he's supposed to elevate the WR core around him" :yeshrug: :yeshrug: :yeshrug: :yeshrug:
The Coli is GMB, but nikkas be married to their takes something fierce :pachaha:honestly I think a lot of ppl just refuse to adjust to the evidence, even if it goes against their point. I’m definitely guilty of and have been working on it most of my adult life, especially when it comes to sports opinions. We all got our bias, but better to be informed than correct.
 

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I stand by that statement 100%, which is why I don’t like hearing the argument that top QB’s need #1 receivers.

That goes for Mahomes, Allen or anyone you want to claim is one of the best QBs in the league.
If the Chiefs didn’t have a top 5 defense this yr (which tbf came at the expense of WR1), the outlook on the season is a lot different. It’s a balancing act. There is a bare minimum of WR corps that even the best can work with at the highest level. Look how much difference Zay and Odell have made on how teams can defend Bal. I don’t think you need a Tyreek/JJ/CD type (they definitely help), but you need a solid receiver room, unless there are absolutely no other holes in the roster
 

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The Ravens were 14-2 with the best offense and defense in the league and lost to Ryan Tannenhil while Lamar had 3 turnovers.
I remember this game, and all three turnovers weren't on Lamar. At least two of them were dropped passes that led to interceptions. Those turnovers were momentum killers, not to mention on the other end, Derrick Henry couldn't be stopped.
 

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The hit came as he was throwing, if he steps up, that balls probly in the stands, but i understand your point, and that may not be his bag, but he can throw that thang a country mile

He needed to move before the hit. It's not like he got blindsided. The pressure was right in front of him but he didn't react.

Maybe I've been watching too many QB School videos but Stroud and Lamar have been great at making subtle moves with their feet and body to quickly get throws off. Mahomes has consistently thrown strikes off platform.

You're right, I don't think Josh has that aspect to his game.
 
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