Dancing Gorilla is no better than your average Drill Rapper

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It's just a style of music, if drill bothers you so much you should work to change the economic conditions that makes that music so popular.
Any excuse to indulge in ignorance.
 

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:manny: those are the breaks. These c00ns think being killed by a white man is the most honorable death they can receive. And sadly msm is pumping out that same narrative...........
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Any excuse to indulge in ignorance.

It's not an excuse it's ignorant music, that's the entire point :russ:

You can't stop people from making a type of art, what you can do it change your community/society in such a way that certain themes are less relatable and culturally prevalent. Berating them isn't going to get you anywhere, you need to improve their material condition, so your idea of a more acceptable culture can flourish, you're complaining about the symptoms not the disease.
 

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It's not an excuse it's ignorant music, that's the entire point :russ:

You can't stop people from making a type of art, what you can do it change your community/society in such a way that certain themes are less relatable and culturally prevalent. Berating them isn't going to get you anywhere, you need to improve their material condition, so your idea of a more acceptable culture can flourish, you're complaining about the symptoms not the disease.

Can't this same argument be made for Big Groove's content?
 

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Can't this same argument be made for Big Groove's content?
No because Groove's content is niche and has nothing to do with his material conditions, he has a cultural hang-up and identity issues (based on his interview). I see what you're saying because to an extent the same is true for drill, but our argument was framed around the prevalence of drill and gang culture in our art, not it's existence entirely.
 

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No because Groove's content is niche and has nothing to do with his material conditions, he has a cultural hang-up and identity issues (based on his interview). I see what you're saying because to an extent the same is true for drill, but our argument was framed around the prevalence of drill and gang culture in our art, not it's existence entirely.

there's nothing niche about minstrelsy or non-white people leaning into harmful stereotypes for white gaze.

We like to create these neat carve-outs for problematic content that appeals to our sensibilities and be very delicate and nuanced in our analysis of things like the conditions that leads people to those outcomes as if those same forces aren't also what compels people to go the route of a Big Groove.

The only real difference here is how Black audiences receive either. Both are anti-Black but one happens to feel more embarrassing.
 

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there's nothing niche about minstrelsy or non-white people leaning into harmful stereotypes for white gaze.
We like to create these neat carve-outs for problematic content that appeals to our sensibilities and be very delicate and nuanced in our analysis of things like the conditions that leads people to those outcomes as if those same forces aren't also what compels people to go the route of a Big Groove.
The only real difference here is how Black audiences receive either. Both are anti-Black but one happens to feel more embarrassing.

Being Anti-Black and being niche aren't mutually exclusive, niche meaning there's not a lot of people doing his type of content that are popular.

The difference is that drill is a subgenre of hip hop which is an art form, and lends itself more credibility than what Groove does. Other than being a tom, I don't see the connection you're trying to make here, drill artists aren't purely driven by self-hate like groove, it's a part of it for sure, but it can exist without it, like Mafia movies or Narcocorrido. Unlike Groove who is practically fueled by white acceptance.
 

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Being Anti-Black and being niche aren't mutually exclusive, niche meaning there's not a lot of people doing his type of content that are popular.

The difference is that drill is a subgenre of hip hop which is an art form, which lends it more credibility than what Groove does. Other than being a tom, I don't see the connection you're trying to make here, drill artists aren't purely driven by self-hate like groove, it's a part of it for sure, but it can exist without it, like Mafia movies or Narcocorrido. Unlike Groove who is practically fueled by white acceptance.

Help me understand how you're so comfortable in concluding that Big Groove is "purely driven by self-hate" while drill artists aren't.
 

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Help me understand how you're so comfortable in concluding that Big Groove is "purely driven by self-hate" while drill artists aren't.

Because I listen to a few drill artists and their albums aren't 49 mins of pure unrepentant racist murder music like some of you seem to think, it's gangsta rap or horrorcore with a focus on street rivalries. The artist can fall into tropes that are anti-black, but that's because the culture in some of these broken down communities is anti-Black. They (for the most part) aren't purposefully appealing to a white audience with the specific goal of c00ning like Big Groove with the watermelon. It's art from an imperfect group of angry young men, it isn't going to be positive or pro black, but sometimes it can be (Sheff G's Mistakes for example).
 

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Say man.... I don't wanna SEE no more threads about this cat :beli:
I'm finna start neggin muhfukkas :camby:
Facts. I’ve never even heard of this dude outside of the threads made about him here :mjlol:

Must be on his street team
 
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