Daniel Bryan = Ratings

[El Cocodrilo]

Ratings are just a symptom of whats really going on which is that WWE is actually doing some fukking booking beyond selling John Cena.

Remember, when Punk was making his run Triple H should have turned heel but instead Kevin Nash texted himself. How was a wider audience gonna be atrracted to THAT?

Now we got Punk and Bryan in well booked feuds against actual heels that are actually getting heat, it's not that complex

 

[dh86]

Did Vince tell you this himself during your shareholder meeting?

Why yes.

Live and Televised Entertainment: $353.8M ($135.2M in profit) = 38.2% margin
* Live Events: $103.7M ($29.2M profit) = North American Live Events: $72.1M (248 events) + International Live Events: $31.6M (66 events) = 28.2% margin = 1.9765M people
* Venue Merchandise: $18.8M ($7.8M in profit) = 41.5% margin
* Pay Per View: $83.6M (4.02M buys worldwide) = $46.0M in profit = 55.0% margin
* TV Rights Fees: $139.5M = $88.9M domestic + $50.6M int'l = $57.3M in profit = 41.0% margin

 

[dh86]

WWE contract with USA Network comes up next fall. You do the math.

 

[Jmare007]

In 2013 it's
1. PPV buys
2. Tv ratings
3. Show attendance

Nah, unless they are really good or really bad, ratings ain't that important. Now, TV ad money is key, but like I said, that's only in play when something big (good or bad) is going down in the ratings.

Show attendance right now is gonna be a very big indicator because Cena has been the main guy alongside WWE's brand name so whatever happens with him gone for a long period of time (and guys like Punk and Bryan being the main players) will tell us a lot about if they really can carry the company in for the next 5-7 years, or if the WWE is so established that there's no need to keep depending and protecting Juanito so much....or if they are fukked and still depend on Cena's drawing power :ppvbro:

 

[dh86]

Nah, unless they are really good or really bad, ratings ain't that important. Now, TV ad money is key, but like I said, that's only in play when something big (good or bad) is going down in the ratings.

Show attendance right now is gonna be a very big indicator because Cena has been the main guy alongside WWE's brand name so whatever happens with him gone for a long period of time (and guys like Punk and Bryan being the main players) will tell us a lot about if they really can carry the company in for the next 5-7 years, or if the WWE is so established that there's no need to keep depending and protecting Juanito so much....or if they are fukked and still depend on Cena's drawing power :ppvbro:

Now more than any other era, the WWE sells tickets based on an ensemble cast. When I was a kid, it was "going to see Hulk Hogan". Today it's "going to see WWE". It's more of a spectacle of television stars visiting your town twice a year. Now Cena is the biggest full time star WWE has and he's the only guy that they offer refunds for when he doesn't appear when advertised, but mere show attendance isn't as much a barometer of connection to the audience as tv ratings where it ebbs and flows based upon who's on the screen.

 

[AquaCityBoy]

Now we got Punk and Bryan in well booked feuds against actual heels that are actually getting heat, it's not that complex

 

[R=G]

Nah, unless they are really good or really bad, ratings ain't that important. Now, TV ad money is key, but like I said, that's only in play when something big (good or bad) is going down in the ratings.

Show attendance right now is gonna be a very big indicator because Cena has been the main guy alongside WWE's brand name so whatever happens with him gone for a long period of time (and guys like Punk and Bryan being the main players) will tell us a lot about if they really can carry the company in for the next 5-7 years, or if the WWE is so established that there's no need to keep depending and protecting Juanito so much....or if they are fukked and still depend on Cena's drawing power :ppvbro:

CM Punk is retiring in like 2 or 3 years. He's not gonna last. Dude came back from a little break looking out of sorts and not really wanting to be there. He finally picked it back up for the Lesnar match and his weird fat guy rant.

John Cena is NOWHERE near as big as you're projecting him to be. He's more of a detriment than anyone on here is even saying. His PPV numbers aren't impressive. He can't really carry PPVs. Even when it was him and Punk in 2011, it did what? A 20k increase or something? That was it Rock and Lesnar are the difference makers and the WWE KNOWS it. That's why they make the most and matter the most anytime they're around. Cena is lucky Bryan is so hot or he would of been behind Lesnar on the Summerslam card again.

 

[Jmare007]

John Cena is NOWHERE near as big as you're projecting him to be. He's more of a detriment than anyone on here is even saying. His PPV numbers aren't impressive. He can't really carry PPVs. Even when it was him and Punk in 2011, it did what? A 20k increase or something? That was it Rock and Lesnar are the difference makers and the WWE KNOWS it. That's why they make the most and matter the most anytime they're around. Cena is lucky Bryan is so hot or he would of been behind Lesnar on the Summerslam card again.

I was talking from WWE's point of view. We can discuss how right or wrong they are about their stance on him but he's their go to guy when they feel they need a boost in anything (business or ratings), that's why he keeps getting overpushed and overprotected. It's not me that is making him a big deal, WWE is making him - and has made him - that.

Him being gone for so long, and new people on top headlining will be a test that WWE will put their attention to. There's no doubt about that.

 

[R=G]

He's pushed as the go to guy but they know fans aren't sold on him or they wouldn't be spinjing through every bad reaction he gets. Bret was the top guy in the mid 90s and they promoted him as that but they needed a ton of extra shyt to keep them looking relevant.

Cena is not what he is shown as..he comes out to a great reaction and get viewer increases..he hasnt changed anything about the business since. A smaller guy complaining on a stage wearing a Austin shirt got more notice than his entire run..ESPN only mentioned the E when Rock and Lesnar came back.

U definitely sound like u buy into it but it's not legit. He's company pushed but he's not a real star.

 

[MenacingMonk]

HHH carrying the biz on his back

I don't remember high ratings during his feud with Brock.

 

[KingDanz]

If Daniel Bryan doesn't come out on top in this storyline... this shyt remind me of Zack Ryder in the embrace the hate storyline.

 

[El Cocodrilo]

I think HHH will be getting that Heat, if he keeps shytting on D.Bry.

Paul Heyman I'd say does have heat.

By the standards of today's generation I'd say theyre doing okay and they're still building up.

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

Let the record show that both Punk and Bryan are able to generate good ratings if you put them in interesting storylines.

What would be really interesting is if they let them carry the show during Mania season when ratings go up every year anyway. See how that would compare to past years.

 

[Art Barr]

Bryan is good but the idea that he's better than CM Punk is laughable to me. People really think that?

Daniel bryan has always been better than punk, breh!
it is just punk was taller and got the nod for the wwe contract, and the big time before db, did.


art barr

 

[Spenceful]

I dont care how over this guy is.

The Yes "catchphrase" is no less cornier than Ryder's WWYKI

And just look at him

Is this what a top face should look like?

Dude looks like a doofus as opposed to this

Now this is what the face of the company should like