Daniel Bryan's promos are AWFUL

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OP is a phaggot, but he's not wrong. :yeshrug:

I've said it before, but Bryan can't deliver a good babyface promo without sounding like an @sshole.
Yeah he's cena level of pandering with his promos now ... He's kind of doing what people complained about face punk doing .
 

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They aren't awful, chill. They are repetitive but do their job. I said this before and everyone thought I was "hating" or "trolling" but the longer Bryan talks, the more he loses his grip on the audience. These pandering YES! promos are a good stop gap measure until he can cut a decent promo without a crutch. He's not Benoit bad though. He's more of a Sheamus where he can't be relied upon to carry a promo. Now, Sheamus as a heel was good because he didn't talk much he just whipped your ass. Bryan needs to do that. Not many words, just beat someone's ass. He's already dominant as hell. Just match the mic work with the in ring persona and we're good.
 

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db has shown he can be as good as the unlikely randy savage..
to the unlikely psycho heel scsa, when he has a little guitar.
singing with vkm, looking on in utter disgust.

I don't think you get it, at all.
his promos and onscreen spots last night are all spot on.
to the point,..
he actually may have gotten over cripple ache as the new vkm.
that hhh has hoped he could be since the attitude era.

so, I don't see how you think db is awful at promos.

you just don't like or understand workrate or the brilliance of his promo/on screen character.
plus, as to why he is over the way he is.




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London is out there alright. Some of his stuff i've seen, like the shoots with Kendrick and the Project: Paul London thing, are funny as fukk too.

You're right about Bryan needing to find that badass edge. A lot of my favourite promos of his are from ROH. Even though he was the smaller guy against Morishima or McGuinness, he still made you believe he could beat them with his promos and how he carried himself. And if he's gonna go head-to-head with HHH on the mic, he needs that edge again.


wwe has purposefully neutered the american dragon edge db's entire tenure in the E.
so, I don't get how you are clamoring for him to showcase his edge in the indy's.
when, it was known and easily discernible since he debuted in the wwe.
he was not going to be that character.
plus, more than likely have to endure a long term burn to get to that level.

right now, in this angle is what should logically promote db to the level of the dragon.
anyway familiar with his previous work connected with.
which, is why his success is so profound.
as he has taken an underdog character and pretty much forced the wwe.
to give him more leeway with very small evolution points.

which, is exactly how he has gotten so over.
as, it is obvious even to casual fans who don't know his pedigree.
they are watching the best in the world be neutered.

you will have to wait for the outcome of the db versus hhh at mania.
to finally see if db gets to add the final layer of his character.
to evolve to the dragon persona from his indy days.
as hhh, may have finally gotten a brain.
then, used it to let himself be the guy who elevates bryan to the level of the dragon.
by actually being vulnerable as an inring character for the first time in his career.
which we can only hope.
the right ending to the hhh/db match is the elbows of fury to fully elevate db to the level of the dragon.

logically anyone who watched db knows.
db has been neutered as a talent.
as anyone familiar with him previously.
easily knows he would annihilate any and all the entire roster.
yet, the wwe is so inept.
they tried to patronize the iwc, with bryan's acquisition.
to have it fail and result in how over db is.
originally, the wwe was just trying to talent raid roh.
to prohibit the quality of roh tv from possibly supercede'n the wwe as an alternative.
so, they aimed to purposefully bury db like they did steiner.

yet, it all backfired.
so, wwe just rolled with the punches.
till arriving at the point where we are now.

wwe originally was going to bury db and sabotaged roh by talent raiding.

it is just db is that profound of a talent.
that the wwe has been forced to book on the fly.
then, adhere to the impact and draw of db, on their roster.
if you watched rohtv when it was on direct tv.

you would have easily seen how much of a higher quality product rohtv was.
incomparison to the programming on wwe.
plus, rohtv was in full hd.
with a higher upside from incredible booking, better analysts/color and actual quality programming and workrate.

so, wwe got pre-emptive and cut the legs off from under rohtv.
by talent raiding them earlier, based upon the threat of rohtv.
possibly, rivaling ecw's hardcore tv...
so, to prevent a monster from developing,....
similar to ecw hardcore TV's draw, and sentimental fan value.

wwe talent raided roh of:

aries
db
black

by positioning them in roles where they would be buried and eclipsed.
or not make it to visible situations like aries.
where they had aries voice over their video game.
then, denied him a roster spot.

where it could possibly pigeon hole them from stigma from their failure in the wwe.

yet, it backfired and aries was tna champ opposite of punk's reign.
who is/was another dominant roh guy.
plus, db was so over playing the unlikely randy savage role with aj.
that originally was booked in a way to purposefully make him fail.
which also backfired, and resulted in him being even a larger draw.
which they tried to neuter and bury once again.
when, they had him lose at mania to sheamus in record time.
plus, make it so...
db could not carry another politically charged clique member to a card stealing performance at mania.
that could be used to authenticate a later push.
it just so happened..
it backfired the next night on raw.
to the point, the wwe has been slow to fully elevate bryan.
either in card placement, workrate, and his actual character being established as the American dragon incarnation.

the brilliance of bryan.
has been his ability to ramp up and also, make the fans buy into that period.
despite the obvious lack of consistent quality in the perception of his character.

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db has shown he can be as good as the unlikely randy savage..
to the unlikely psycho heel scsa, when he has a little guitar.
singing with vkm, looking on in utter disgust.

I don't think you get it, at all.
his promos and onscreen spots last night are all spot on.
to the point,..
he actually may have gotten over cripple ache as the new vkm.
that hhh has hoped he could be since the attitude era.

so, I don't see how you think db is awful at promos.

you just don't like or understand workrate or the brilliance of his promo/on screen character.
plus, as to why he is over the way he is.




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You can't believe this one bit . He's over because he can work and he's showed some character development on smackdown and with team hell no ala Kurt angle but that's where it stops . Hhh is no Vince because Right now he's barely a heel and no one wants to see a whiny baby face begging for matches with people . By the way yes movement ? It's cena levels of corny right up there with wwe universe and Cenation
 

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I thought D-Bry was great in the backstage confrontation with HHH and Steph, he finally showed real emotions. But the in ring promo was still kinda ehh. The Yes thing has been going for almost 2 years now, he doesn't need to keep reminding people to chant it or end every damn promo with that.

Yeah he's cena level of pandering with his promos now ... He's kind of doing what people complained about face punk doing .

It amazes me how this guys get that spot and don't do much to modify a style of promo than everyone knows it's not very good. Cena is very hit or miss even after all this years, Punk was atrocious in the first half of 2012 as the face champ and now D-Bry has been underwhelming as fukk. But all three can cut a good promo when needed. Punk is amazing cutting heel promos and Bryan was fun as hell when he was WHC (and was amazing as a dikk heel in the indys too). I mean, they have the talent to pull something off but for some weird reason they insist on going along the boring comedy and pandering :smh:
 

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You can't believe this one bit . He's over because he can work and he's showed some character development on smackdown and with team hell no ala Kurt angle but that's where it stops . Hhh is no Vince because Right now he's barely a heel and no one wants to see a whiny baby face begging for matches with people . By the way yes movement ? It's cena levels of corny right up there with wwe universe and Cenation


first off,
every role bryan has been in.
has been a re-used template that typically the wwe uses to bury talent.

his union with kane was an obvious nod to past fan favorite previous drawing incarnations.
that were originally buried
similar to golddust and booker t.

his role of being with aj, was not supposed to be as good as randy savage, sonning liz.
it was supposed to be pigeoned-holed as:
sable with mero
where aj as sable was to go on and be the draw.
while the pedigree'd effeminate looking mero who was a talented iring talent trained by the malenko's.
was to be cast aside in the bushes.

evident by them giving the world to aj.
then, having bryan lose in a wedding angle that has never drew after.
the draw for wedding angles in the wwe were demeaned on purpose.
to create a stop gap that kept another talent from actualizing their draw from a marriage angle like hhh did with the wedding angle with steph.

then, placing bryan and kane together in the psych analyst vignettes.
it just back fired, and bryan used it to get over in a way they did not even fathom.
as a matter of fact,..
even the name hell no went against their pg styled direction.
so, even the very name was against the so-called direction of the company.
plus, had a built in component to bury bryan.
via, annihilation and humiliation of eventually being teamed with kane.
where bryan would look weak ala xpac, and past rey mysterio bookings with kane, and batista as tag partners.

it just so happened bryan is also one of if not argueably the best tag wrasslers on earth as well.
evident by five star classic on roh with rollins vs the American wolves.

which you must not have seen.
just like the wwe probably had not seen, as well.
which is why hhh's pr on the wolves was so negative.
as he probably has no real time frame of reference with any of the roh's guys actual work.
before he actually attempted to bury the promotion by talent raiding them.
or giving them prospective looks that were purposefully built to bury them via negative pr.
which is why he also has negative iwc commentary.
as hhh/steph have no frame of reference to identify quality draws for real in this business.

the only reason why db, got this match is because of his draw.
plus, it is continually apparent bryan is argueably the best actual inring worker in the history of the wwe.
argueably all of wrasslin history as well.
plus, has clique lineage he can latch on to.
when, it helps stimulates and possibly amplifies hhh's own draw.

so eventually he can attempt to bury the talent, with the infinity shovel.
as a way to eliminate any competing promotion.
from using the draw of former grappler who came down a wwe ramp.

hhh will use this mania match.
to solidify his role as the new vkm on paper.
to further, TNYCDA movement.
right now, after raw.
the db confrontation further pushed that agenda further along.
where spread sheet protocol and management will supercede.
the actual quality of the product and its potential to maximize a real profit.
which also, dually eliminates them from creating a real boom.
which is needed, for a publically traded company.
it is just this company and its figure heads don't know how to sustain said boom period.
as they never really created a real boom period of their own.
from their real grassroots draw, as their boom periods.
are the result of the Oscar movie winning rocky franchise.
then, the second boom period is the result of the flair grassroots braintrust.
versus the false braintrust of the clique, which is only a draw from rocky.

also,....
you fail to remember.
or you don't know anything about this character of danielson's in the wwe.
that this Daniel bryan character is not in anyway close to being the American dragon bryan Danielson.

the reason why Daniel bryan works with casual fans is because bryan has learned how to take the little they give him on paper that is meant to bury him.
then, find the upside that is redeeming as a character.
coupled with his experience and talent to maximize what little there is there to get him over.

like I said, bryan has used this company.
way more than this company potentially hoped.
when they signed him from roh.
to talent raid and, to purposefully bury him.
along with the grassroots upside of the last competing domestic promotion.
the reason why they have a slow build is because they don't know what to do.
just as history points out when they have no template on what to do to capitalize.

on top of the fact, they hope to bury bryan.
so, if and when, bryan leaves.
his star power from the wwe draw is dulled beyond repair.
so, it creates a stigma if he goes into another promotion.

you don't realize that at all, as you don't really know or understand this business.
it is a reason I am called better than meltzer of this place.
as I am a smart on a level above smarks and marks.
plus, understand business administration and what occurs in a corporate structure in a number of businesses and business models.

you don't understand any of it, and you fail at picking up on administrative coup's.
in even the simplest form on television.


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I thought D-Bry was great in the backstage confrontation with HHH and Steph, he finally showed real emotions. But the in ring promo was still kinda ehh. The Yes thing has been going for almost 2 years now, he doesn't need to keep reminding people to chant it or end every damn promo with that.



It amazes me how this guys get that spot and don't do much to modify a style of promo than everyone knows it's not very good. Cena is very hit or miss even after all this years, Punk was atrocious in the first half of 2012 as the face champ and now D-Bry has been underwhelming as fukk. But all three can cut a good promo when needed. Punk is amazing cutting heel promos and Bryan was fun as hell when he was WHC (and was amazing as a dikk heel in the indys too). I mean, they have the talent to pull something off but for some weird reason they insist on going along the boring comedy and pandering :smh:


you don't know how constrictive the writing and scripting is in this instances.
nor, do you know what time constraints live could have play a factor as well.
so, I think you taking things out of the realm of reality.
as you can not really consistently create a quality product all the time wholeheartedly.
with a company who is ruled by the carni mantra, of:

it's not supposed to be good.

along with the:
#TNYCDA movement


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first off,
every role bryan has been in.
has been a re-used template that typically the wwe uses to bury talent.

his union with kane was an obvious nod to past fan favorite previous drawing incarnations.
that were originally buried
similar to golddust and booker t.

his role of being with aj, was not supposed to be as good as randy savage, sonning liz.
it was supposed to be pigeoned-holed as:
sable with mero
where aj as sable was to go on and be the draw.
while the pedigree'd effeminate looking mero who was a talented iring talent trained by the malenko's.
was to be cast aside in the bushes.

evident by them giving the world to aj.
then, having bryan lose in a wedding angle that has never drew after.
the draw for wedding angles in the wwe were demeaned on purpose.
to create a stop gap that kept another talent from actualizing their draw from a marriage angle like hhh did with the wedding angle with steph.

then, placing bryan and kane together in the psych analyst vignettes.
it just back fired, and bryan used it to get over in a way they did not even fathom.
as a matter of fact,..
even the name hell no went against their pg styled direction.
so, even the very name was against the so-called direction of the company.
plus, had a built in component to bury bryan.
via, annihilation and humiliation of eventually being teamed with kane.
where bryan would look weak ala xpac, and past rey mysterio bookings with kane, and batista as tag partners.

it just so happened bryan is also one of if not argueably the best tag wrasslers on earth as well.
evident by five star classic on roh with rollins vs the American wolves.

which you must not have seen.
just like the wwe probably had not seen, as well.
which is why hhh's pr on the wolves was so negative.
as he probably has no real time frame of reference with any of the roh's guys actual work.
before he actually attempted to bury the promotion by talent raiding them.
or giving them prospective looks that were purposefully built to bury them via negative pr.
which is why he also has negative iwc commentary.
as hhh/steph have no frame of reference to identify quality draws for real in this business.

the only reason why db, got this match is because of his draw.
plus, it is continually apparent bryan is argueably the best actual inring worker in the history of the wwe.
argueably all of wrasslin history as well.
plus, has clique lineage he can latch on to.
when, it helps stimulates and possibly amplifies hhh's own draw.

so eventually he can attempt to bury the talent, with the infinity shovel.
as a way to eliminate any competing promotion.
from using the draw of former grappler who came down a wwe ramp.

hhh will use this mania match.
to solidify his role as the new vkm on paper.
to further, TNYCDA movement.
right now, after raw.
the db confrontation further pushed that agenda further along.
where spread sheet protocol and management will supercede.
the actual quality of the product and its potential to maximize a real profit.
which also, dually eliminates them from creating a real boom.
which is needed, for a publically traded company.
it is just this company and its figure heads don't know how to sustain said boom period.
as they never really created a real boom period of their own.
from their real grassroots draw, as their boom periods.
are the result of the Oscar movie winning rock franchise.
then, the second boom period is the result of the flair grassroots braintrust.
versus the false braintrust of the clique, which is only a draw from rocky.

also,....
you fail to remember.
or you don't know anything about this character of danielson's in the wwe.
that this Daniel bryan character is not in anyway close to being the American dragon bryan Danielson.

the reason why Daniel bryan works with casual fans is because bryan has learned how to take the little they give him on paper that is meant to bury him.
then, find the upside that is redeeming as a character.
coupled with his experience and talent to maximize what little there is there to get him over.

like I said, bryan has used this company.
way more than this company potentially hoped.
when they signed him from roh.
to talent raid and, to purposefully bury him.
along with the grassroots upside of the last competing domestic promotion.
the reason why they have a slow build is because they don't know what to do.
just as history points out when they have no template on what to do to capitalize.

on top of the fact, they hope to bury bryan.
so, if and when, bryan leaves.
his star power from the wwe draw is dulled beyond repair.
so, it creates a stigma if he goes into another promotion.

you don't realize that at all, as you don't really know or understand this business.
it is a reason I am called better than meltzer of this place.
as I am a smart on a level above smarks and marks.
plus, understand business administration and what occurs in a corporate structure in a number of businesses and business models.

you don't understand any of it, and you fail at picking up on administrative coup's.
in even the simplest form on television.


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whatever the reasons his promos are lacking as a super squeaky clean face they aren't up to snuff yet . He needs to find his voice again before hhh spends weeks pot shotting him .
 

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I thought D-Bry was great in the backstage confrontation with HHH and Steph, he finally showed real emotions. But the in ring promo was still kinda ehh. The Yes thing has been going for almost 2 years now, he doesn't need to keep reminding people to chant it or end every damn promo with that.



It amazes me how this guys get that spot and don't do much to modify a style of promo than everyone knows it's not very good. Cena is very hit or miss even after all this years, Punk was atrocious in the first half of 2012 as the face champ and now D-Bry has been underwhelming as fukk. But all three can cut a good promo when needed. Punk is amazing cutting heel promos and Bryan was fun as hell when he was WHC (and was amazing as a dikk heel in the indys too). I mean, they have the talent to pull something off but for some weird reason they insist on going along the boring comedy and pandering :smh:
I think the age of that type of face has passed because the heels too busy being cool heels now and creative scripting people to say corny 80s face stuff . Dbry should be snapping and throwing the yes lock on niccas not doing his own version of a serious angry cena voice .
It feels like the YES Movement is carrying Daniel Bryan rather than Daniel Bryan carrying the YES Movement.
I see the writing on the wall by September smarks will be :yawn: at all his pandering . I miss heel dbry that character was good and it felt like he believed it .
 
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