Danny Ainge Appreciation Thread

[#1 pick]

BUT HE MAKES HIS TEAM MATES BETTER THO

He really doesn't make all teammates better. Just the really talented ones who teams gameplan to take out of spots. For role players, he's okay. He has too many flaws and teams work to take away Rondo's impact. On talented teams, you can take it away but you will pay. On meh or bad teams, Rondo is useless. He's a negative player. He's one of those Josh Smith, Lance Stephenson, Brandon Jennings types. That's why I can't ride with @Malta on Jennings. Let's see him on the Pacers with Hibbert and PG or a good personnel grouping before I give him the bushes.

I think Rondo will be an impact player in Dallas. Watch Chandler Parson's improvement ASAP.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

He really doesn't make all teammates better. Just the really talented ones who teams gameplan to take out of spots.

The really talented ones don't need him. This has been the misconception this whole time. The main reason why Boston had shytty offenses is because they played 4 on 5 at a slow pace, and it was screen after screen after screen with one player dribblin the fukk outta the ball without looking to score. It works to some degree with Chris Paul, because he's a legit scorer and can knock down shots from anywhere.

For role players, he's okay. He has too many flaws and teams work to take away Rondo's impact.

For role players it gives you a more accurate reflection of his ability, because it's in its rawest form. He's absolutely garbage trying to lead a bunch of role players, because he's not to far from being one himself. In the games the Celtics haven't played without Rondo this season, they've looked 10x better, because they moved the ball and everyone on the floor was a threat to score and weren't concerned with inflating their stats.

On talented teams, you can take it away but you will pay. On meh or bad teams, Rondo is useless. He's a negative player. He's one of those Josh Smith, Lance Stephenson, Brandon Jennings types. That's why I can't ride with @Malta on Jennings. Let's see him on the Pacers with Hibbert and PG or a good personnel grouping before I give him the bushes.

I can fukks with that.

 

[#1 pick]

The really talented ones don't need him. This has been the misconception this whole time. The main reason why Boston had shytty offenses is because they played 4 on 5 at a slow pace, and it was screen after screen after screen with one player dribblin the fukk outta the ball without looking to score. It works to some degree with Chris Paul, because he's a legit scorer and can knock down shots from anywhere.

For role players it gives you a more accurate reflection of his ability, because it's in its rawest form. He's absolutely garbage trying to lead a bunch of role players, because he's not to far from being one himself. In the games the Celtics haven't played without Rondo this season, they've looked 10x better, because they moved the ball and everyone on the floor was a threat to score and weren't concerned with inflating their stats.




I can fukks with that.

I can see most of what you said. That said, I still don't agree about his impact when it's positive. He gets good players the shots they like in the spot they like.

 

[Bernie Madoff]

http://www.celticsblog.com/2015/2/2...arnett-trade-is-the-gift-that-keeps-on-giving

If we trace back our steps and add the Thomas trade to Boston’s haul for Pierce and Garnett, here’s the updated breakdown of notable assets Ainge received via the blockbuster deal:
--James Young (2014 first-round Nets pick)
--Isaiah Thomas (acquired via 2016 CLE first-round pick and Marcus Thornton. Both of those acquired via $10.4 million Nets trade exception)
--Tyler Zeller (acquired via $10.4 million trade exception)
--2016 unprotected Nets first-round pick
--2017 option to swap first-round pick with Nets
--2018 unprotected Nets first-round pick

 

[Captain Crunch]

Ainge the GOAT 2k GM

 

[Piff Perkins]

THE ANNOUNCERS lmao

Ollie gets in Ainge's face: give him a tech, he clearly was intimidating Danny Boy!

Ainge point blank shotguns the ball into Ollie's face: now now we don't know what his intentions were, folks




That's some OG no snitching

 

[Taadow]

Oh.

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

THE ANNOUNCERS lmao

Ollie gets in Ainge's face: give him a tech, he clearly was intimidating Danny Boy!

Ainge point blank shotguns the ball into Ollie's face: now now we don't know what his intentions were, folks




That's some OG no snitching

@ scott brooks towel waving and jumping around like a cheerleader

he pitched in college too, he had a cannon

he was a player that everyone hated

albeit obvious as hell..danny was tryin with the ref to pull the okie doke.."i saw someone open deep and wanted to get it there before the defense recovered...he was in my way "

hakeem dunking it at the end was the last straw for danny..he felt disrespected as fukk

 

[Barry Sanders]

THE ANNOUNCERS lmao

Ollie gets in Ainge's face: give him a tech, he clearly was intimidating Danny Boy!

Ainge point blank shotguns the ball into Ollie's face: now now we don't know what his intentions were, folks




That's some OG no snitching

doug collins voice changed quik when danny did that shyt. he was going hard on elie. you have to take that out the game. he should get a technical.doug collins like did ainge do that on purpose

 

[FAH1223]

THE ANNOUNCERS lmao

Ollie gets in Ainge's face: give him a tech, he clearly was intimidating Danny Boy!

Ainge point blank shotguns the ball into Ollie's face: now now we don't know what his intentions were, folks




That's some OG no snitching

Doug Collins and Hammond coppin pleas

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Celtics could be a contender as early as next season, meanwhile in Philly.....

Edit: Ainge gonna Ainge

 

[NatiboyB]

So what is he going to do with all these picks is what I want to see

 

[Listen]

So what is he going to do with all these picks is what I want to see

Boston needs a true star who can create his own shot to go with IT and this team would be competing atop the east for the next 3 years.

 

[Bernie Madoff]

Top 3 pick
MOST cap room in the NBA
Young players with upside



Don't forget to thank the management who paid Keith bogans 5.4 million to make a trade work when he wasn't worth a 1/3... Paying the Gerald Wallace, David Lee salaries..

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Despite giving Ainge the benefit of the doubt (after being critical of his ability as a GM) - he has a history of waiting too long before making moves (costing the Celtics maximum return in the process):

He's making up for lost ground after wasting a whole season by failing to recognize the big three's Championship window closed (in 2012) and capitalizing on their peak value.

With their defeat in the 11/12 Eastern Conference Finals (second consecutive post-season defeat against the Miami Heat), what's beef between Ray Allen and Rajon Rondo → Doc Rivers → Danny Ainge (which inevitably forced Allen to leave in the offseason), Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett both on the decline (showing they could no longer handle carrying a team between the two of them), ispo facto - that was the end of their Championship window (07-12).

Rajon Rondo's value was at its career-peak, and just like Pierce's and Garnett's would decline from there on out - the perfect opportunity to capitalize on what could have been fast-tracking a complete rebuild (saving them at least 2-3 seasons), with Allen's/Garnett's no-trade clauses as the only obstacle. Pierce/Garnett and most importantly Rondo could have netted Boston, a combination of the following through S&T or lottery picks (+ picks in future drafts):


'12 Draft: Anthony Davis, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Bradley Beal, Dion Waiters, Damien Lillard, Harrison Barnes, Terrence Ross, Andre Drummond.


'12 FA: Goran Dragic, Jamaal Crawford, Nicolas Batum, Ryan Anderson, Brook Lopez.


Following that: any lottery picks in the '13 and '14 Drafts and enough cap space for '13 and '14 FA.

Instead Ainge's imbued practice of empty loyalty wasted a whole season, already knowing their run was over, - watched the Celtics bow out in the first round, with KG/Pierce having their worst seasons since '07 and Rondo pushing his value into limbo - following his ACL injury. Only to trade KG/PP for three first round picks from the Nets: James Young (2014 pick), 2016 1st rounder and 2018 first rounder in the off-season.

Now that's a reasonable exchange, considering their value basically bottomed out, but they received the less favorable 2014 first-round pick, drafting a player whose max-projection is a 6th man/bench fill-out and two unprotected picks in 2016 and 2018. Waiting a further two seasons, which could turn out to be late first-rounders given Prokhorov/King could right Brooklyn's ship before those picks come into play or the fact that the East could be in the same dire state in 2016, they're still not bad enough to miss the playoffs.

Following that: Rondo's value now is basically Ricky Rubio with a invisible cloak that's rendered his flaws in purgatory to the basketball faux-cultured status, and if Ainge can't use that to his advantage to strong-arm a team into a top-heavy deal - he'll either lose Rondo for scraps or he'll eventually lose him for nothing, when he's a UFA.