Breh, it's even worse than you think, it's not first rounders, it's a first round pick
The pick even has some protections on it
*does the come up shuffle*
Danny Ainge needs to be fired
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No way. Can't be mad at what he got for pierce kg and rondo at all
Don't be stupid... that kg pierce trade is probably the greatest trade rape of all time
Gil Scott-Heroin
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He could've got more if he listened to me. Everyone was looking at me like I was crazy (you included) when I said he should've traded Rondo in 2012. He failed to capatilize on peak value.
He could've got more if he listened to me. Everyone was looking at me like I was crazy (you included) when I said he should've traded Rondo in 2012. He failed to capatilize on peak value.
He's executed this rebuild masterfully. You can argue that he should have traded for cousins, fine, but he's the #2 seed in the east with the best odds for the number one pick.
Gil Scott-Heroin
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No he hasn't. Read this again and just tell me how he did it "masterfully":
"He's making up for lost ground after wasting a whole season by failing to recognize the big three's Championship window closed (in 2012) and capitalizing on their peak value.
With their defeat in the 11/12 Eastern Conference Finals (second consecutive post-season defeat against the Miami Heat), what's beef between Ray Allen and Rajon Rondo → Doc Rivers → Danny Ainge (which inevitably forced Allen to leave in the offseason), Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett both on the decline (showing they could no longer handle carrying a team between the two of them), ispo facto - that was the end of their Championship window (07-12).
Rajon Rondo's value was at its career-peak, and just like Pierce's and Garnett's would decline from there on out - the perfect opportunity to capitalize on what could have been fast-tracking a complete rebuild (saving them at least 2-3 seasons), with Allen's/Garnett's no-trade clauses as the only obstacle. Pierce/Garnett and most importantly Rondo could have netted Boston, a combination of the following through S&T or lottery picks (+ picks in future drafts):
'12 Draft: Anthony Davis, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Bradley Beal, Dion Waiters, Damien Lillard, Harrison Barnes, Terrence Ross, Andre Drummond.
'12 FA: Goran Dragic, Jamaal Crawford, Nicolas Batum, Ryan Anderson, Brook Lopez.
Following that: any lottery picks in the '13 and '14 Drafts and enough cap space for '13 and '14 FA.
Instead Ainge's imbued practice of empty loyalty wasted a whole season, already knowing their run was over, - watched the Celtics bow out in the first round, with KG/Pierce having their worst seasons since '07 and Rondo pushing his value into limbo - following his ACL injury. Only to trade KG/PP for three first round picks from the Nets: James Young (2014 pick), 2016 1st rounder and 2018 first rounder in the off-season.
Now that's a reasonable exchange, considering their value basically bottomed out, but they received the less favorable 2014 first-round pick, drafting a player whose max-projection is a 6th man/bench fill-out and two unprotected picks in 2016 and 2018. Waiting a further two seasons, which could turn out to be late first-rounders given Prokhorov/King could right Brooklyn's ship before those picks come into play or the fact that the East could be in the same dire state in 2016, they're still not bad enough to miss the playoffs.
Following that: Rondo's value now is basically Ricky Rubio with a invisible cloak that's rendered his flaws in purgatory to the basketball faux-cultured status, and if Ainge can't use that to his advantage to strong-arm a team into a top-heavy deal - he'll either lose Rondo for scraps or he'll eventually lose him for nothing, when he's a UFA."
What use is that #1 pick when y'all are ready to compete right now?
GOAT
The bubble was fraudulent
So you think they win the title with Boogie? A top 3 pick will definitely be great for the C's. We aren't fukking with the Cavs or Warriors any time soon regardless. We got a potential core of Fultz/Brown/Porter (or Ayton, Bamba, and that euro nikka) for the future. When all those guys decline, the C's will be the next dominant team.Dude pretty much has to grab Butler before the deadline is over or this is going to be an all time WOAT GM move...
The celtics are playing well and built to win within the next 4 years...a lottery pick is doing nothing for them...
He about to have to pay IT the max to...which is something i bet danny never had in his plans
DIMES
Retired troll
danny ainge cant draft for shyt. danny aint cant draft for shyt. danny ainge cant draft for shyt.
your teams main weakness was a low post threat that can board and get buckets...cause your entire front line is fukkin soft
now you're held into a spot where you will either reach for a big man 10+ spots ahead of where they should be drafted...or draft a wing or guard that will be sitting behind IT and your hosts of guards.
danny ainge cant draft for shyt
Didn't ainge draft rondo at 21 & Bradley at 19? Off the top of my head that's pretty good
No he hasn't. Read this again and just tell me how he did it "masterfully":
"He's making up for lost ground after wasting a whole season by failing to recognize the big three's Championship window closed (in 2012) and capitalizing on their peak value.
With their defeat in the 11/12 Eastern Conference Finals (second consecutive post-season defeat against the Miami Heat), what's beef between Ray Allen and Rajon Rondo → Doc Rivers → Danny Ainge (which inevitably forced Allen to leave in the offseason), Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett both on the decline (showing they could no longer handle carrying a team between the two of them), ispo facto - that was the end of their Championship window (07-12).
Rajon Rondo's value was at its career-peak, and just like Pierce's and Garnett's would decline from there on out - the perfect opportunity to capitalize on what could have been fast-tracking a complete rebuild (saving them at least 2-3 seasons), with Allen's/Garnett's no-trade clauses as the only obstacle. Pierce/Garnett and most importantly Rondo could have netted Boston, a combination of the following through S&T or lottery picks (+ picks in future drafts):
'12 Draft: Anthony Davis, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Bradley Beal, Dion Waiters, Damien Lillard, Harrison Barnes, Terrence Ross, Andre Drummond.
'12 FA: Goran Dragic, Jamaal Crawford, Nicolas Batum, Ryan Anderson, Brook Lopez.
Following that: any lottery picks in the '13 and '14 Drafts and enough cap space for '13 and '14 FA.
Instead Ainge's imbued practice of empty loyalty wasted a whole season, already knowing their run was over, - watched the Celtics bow out in the first round, with KG/Pierce having their worst seasons since '07 and Rondo pushing his value into limbo - following his ACL injury. Only to trade KG/PP for three first round picks from the Nets: James Young (2014 pick), 2016 1st rounder and 2018 first rounder in the off-season.
Now that's a reasonable exchange, considering their value basically bottomed out, but they received the less favorable 2014 first-round pick, drafting a player whose max-projection is a 6th man/bench fill-out and two unprotected picks in 2016 and 2018. Waiting a further two seasons, which could turn out to be late first-rounders given Prokhorov/King could right Brooklyn's ship before those picks come into play or the fact that the East could be in the same dire state in 2016, they're still not bad enough to miss the playoffs.
Following that: Rondo's value now is basically Ricky Rubio with a invisible cloak that's rendered his flaws in purgatory to the basketball faux-cultured status, and if Ainge can't use that to his advantage to strong-arm a team into a top-heavy deal - he'll either lose Rondo for scraps or he'll eventually lose him for nothing, when he's a UFA."
What use is that #1 pick when y'all are ready to compete right now?
Stop posting that article, you're shytting on the Brooklyn trade which doesn't make you look good. You also didn't include the 2017 pick swap.
Not wasting my time going back and forth with you. But in the meantime please tell me 5 general managers better than Danny Ainge
GOAT
The bubble was fraudulent
Three years after blowing it up and moving on from the Big 3, Ainge has the Celtics positioned 2nd in the East with the highest odds at the number 1 pick in the same damn year (and will have that AGAIN next year) but he's a bad GM. I swear nikkas are out of their mind on here.
fukking morons. At least wait until after the deadline before you jump on him. Even if he does nothing, he still has the best odds at the number one pick and cap space for a max guy to add to the second best team in the east
I'm saying. And it's not like the deadline already came and went, they still can flip those picks.
Gil Scott-Heroin
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It's not an article - they're my own words.
I'm shytting on the fact that Ainge took too long to dismantle the Big Three + Rondo. He received less than if he were to move them at peak value.
Because you know I'm right.
It's not an article - they're my own words.
I'm shytting on the fact that Ainge took too long to dismantle the Big Three + Rondo. He received less than if he were to move them at peak value.
Because you know I'm right.
Name 5 general managers better than ainge
I'm waiting
Gil Scott-Heroin
Veteran
And the point of that would be what exactly? Just because he may be a top-5 GM doesn't excuse him from being criticized - especially when he's sitting on a bunch of Cinderella chips and is showing no signs of cashing them in. @SchoolboyC's position is completely reasonable, given the fact he sees his team is in prime position to make moves in order to compete for a title, and yet no moves are being made. If I was a Celtics fan I'd be mad as hell too.
ManBearPig
half man half bearpig
DeMarcus Cousins and IT were teammates and maybe IT knows something about cousins that we don't know
They weren't successful together
They weren't successful together