David Carroll Says That #BlackLivesMatter Should Also Matter When Women Go Abort Babies

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Whether something is bad should be judged on its own merits, not whether the person who originally came up with the idea is bad. If we found out that the person who created trigonometry was an associate of the KKK, does that mean trigonometry is bad and black people should be against it?

I don't see how an adult could struggle to understand such a basic concept. This is why we need to have basic logic classes in school. :mindblown:

Ok, so what benefits have been provided for blacks since we are getting the most abortions in proportion to the population, thus largely fulfilling the vision of the founder. Why aren't we seeing the wealth in the black community soar because we've been getting all of these abortions, since that is one of the supposed "benefits" of abortion?
 

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Ok, so what benefits have been provided for blacks since we are getting the most abortions in proportion to the population, thus largely fulfilling the vision of the founder. Why aren't we seeing the wealth in the black community soar because we've been getting all of these abortions, since that is one of the supposed "benefits" of abortion?

Straw man. I didn't say anything about abortions leading to wealth or nor did I particularly advocate it. I'm just pointing out that criticizing the person behind an idea instead of an idea is fallacious and irrational. When I was in college me and my girlfriend (at the time) got hooked up with a bunch of free condoms. Is contraception also bad since it's associated with planned parenthood? Maybe black people should stop using condoms since Margaret Sanger was also pro-contraception? That's the argument you're making.

My personal opinion on abortion is that I dislike it and wish it didn't exist, but women will get abortions with or without planned parenthood and whether or not they're illegal. Outlaw abortion and you just create a black market for it and we just go back to the days of back alley abortions. The best way to reduce abortions (and save black lives) is to avoid unplanned pregnancies in the first place. Make people more educated about sex and what the risks of unprotected sex are, increase the availability of birth control/contraception, discourage sexual promiscuity, etc. However anti-abortion crusades don't help much, abortion won't be outlawed and even it it was, it wouldn't stop people from getting them.
 

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Not all Black lives matter in the context of the #BlackLivesMatter campaign, just the lives of Black people murdered by whites, or police officers. Black people murdered by other Black people and aborted Black babies do NOT matter in the context of the #BlackLivesMatter campaign.

black people murdered by other black people matter just fine as the perps are normally prosecuted, so I don't see how you can say that those lives don't matter to anyone, they clearly matter to the justice system; as for the criminal who committed the crime, you will have to go talk to them to find out if black lives matter to them

babies who are aborted do not matter to the society because they are not deemed independent people yet
this is not only for black babies, this is for all babies that fall under the legal abortion threshold

but repeatedly when blacks are killed by police officers of their proxies there is doubt, resistance and outright lack of prosecution hence the need for a hashtag blacklivesmatter

so your points are a silly waste of time
now I know you know what you are doing, I just typed this stuff for the other readers
 

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actually completely unrelated
black people murdered by other black people matters just fine as the perps are normally prosecuted, so I don't see how you can say that those lives don't matter to anyone, they clearly matter to the justice system as for the criminal who commited the crime, you will have to go talk to them

babies who are aborted do not matter to the society because they are not deemed independent people yet
this is not only for black babies, this is for all babies that fall under the legal abortion threshold

but repeatedly when blacks are killed by police officers of their proxies there is doubt, resistance and outright lack of prosecution hence the need for a hashtag blacklivesmatter

so your points are a silly waste of time
now I know you know what you are doing, I just typed this stuff for the other readers

I clearly said those lives don't matter in the context of the #BlackLivesMatter campaign, yes, they matter to the justice system, but those are not the Black lives the #BlackLivesMatter campaign are referring to when they say #BlackLivesMatter.
 

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I clearly said those lives don't matter in the context of the #BlackLivesMatter campaign, yes, they matter to the justice system, but
who gives a fukk?:heh:
that campaign is specifically aimed at the justice system
that's like saying the commissioner of the nfl is not responsible for the American Medical Association
sure it's true, but who gives a fukk:heh:
 

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who gives a fukk?:heh:
that campaign is specifically aimed at the justice system
that's like saying the commissioner of the nfl is not responsible for the American Medical Association
sure it's true, but who gives a fukk:heh:

the premise of this thread is that Black lives should also matter when women abort babies or when Black people take Black lives.

:francis:

the hashtag #BlackLivesMatter suggests or implies that all Black lives matter when in reality it's not as all encompassing as it seems.
 

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the premise of this thread is that Black lives should also matter when women abort babies or when Black people take Black lives.

:francis:
false
that's the premise of the person in the video
he's wrong just as you are

the hashtag #BlackLivesMatter suggests or implies that all Black lives matter when in reality it's not as all encompassing as it seems.
false
the hash was specifically borne out of repeated witnessing of police misconduct in a climate of non-prosecution for said misconduct
you can pretend to not know that or pretend to only subscribe to the most obtuse, non-contextual reading of the hash tag, but that does not change the reality of its intention or spirit.
 
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Male not wanting the kid: Deadbeat loser

Female getting abortion: She did what she thought was right.

Hate to break it to you but usually these two go hand in hand. Guy doesn't want to be a father or (even outrigtht denies that he's the father of said unborn child) so girl has abortion. Seen it happen many times :wow:
 

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As for the thread subject matter, black women being able to make decisions regarding their own bodies and black people being gunned down by disgusting racist cops are NOT related to each other.
 

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That's the conversation that clowns wants you to have. He's the type to tell you black families were better in slavery, because, well, they were at least a family.

With people like that, you do the white woman smile. It's the smile where you clinch your lips together and make a smiling motion for two seconds.

:dead: that is the universal white woman smile

I've gotten to the point that I purposely :birdman:when I walk by & they do that.
 

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Hate to break it to you but usually these two go hand in hand. Guy doesn't want to be a father or (even outrigtht denies that he's the father of said unborn child) so girl has abortion. Seen it happen many times :wow:

:wtf:
Please don't go using the generalization card... plenty of instances the guy actually WANTS the kid and the woman is like fukk that I ain't trying to get fat or have an actual responsibility besides having a p*ssy.
 

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:dead: that is the universal white woman smile

I've gotten to the point that I purposely :birdman:when I walk by & they do that.
I used to live near a train station. I have lived in that vicinity for almost 20 years. Anyway, there was this white chick in Phillies apparel. Now, the social norm dictates that I cross the street to not appear as I am out to get the "poe Ole white gurl." I didn't. I don't do things like that. I don't try to make my oppressors comfortable.
 
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