David Dorn, 77, killed by looters in STL. Update: Daughters upset widow using his death at RNC.

[YouMadd?]

If he wasnt a cop, I would care more. Thats just honesty. I wish he didnt die, I can say that much. But a 40yr career as a cop means youve done alot of bad shyt to alot of black people for a really long time. Being a black cop has not stopped, or curtailed any of the fukked up shyt they do to us, to their own communities. Especially if you were a captain. I say this with personal experience. Its unfortunate though that he died.

Dude you need to seek therapy if this is your response to this.... Not trolling,or anything.... But thats such a shytty take on this...

 

[Izanami]

This thread is a microcosm as to why Black Americans wont get what they "want" in this country, Assuming what we want is "Freedom"....

If that piece of shyt who killed Dorn were to get killed by the cops in an unjust way, people in this thread would literally care more bout that then the fact that this dude murdered a Patriarch of a black family...

The average black person condemns these criminals act. False narrative and respectability politics from CACs like you are outdated and WE see past that now.

 

[YouMadd?]

which is why the whole black on black crime shyt is such a bullshyt deflection.

when black on black crime happens and the perpetrator is caught, THEY GOTO fukkIN JAIL AS DESERVED.

WHEN COPS DO WRONG AND ARE BLATANTLY CAUGHT, THEY GET OFF!!!

White people bring up Black on Black crime to say "Why should we care about your treatment, if You guys dont even treat eachother well".....

The only way we avoid that part of the debate would be if we stopped begging white people for help.

 

[Izanami]

which is why the whole black on black crime shyt is such a bullshyt deflection.

when black on black crime happens and the perpetrator is caught, THEY GOTO fukkIN JAIL AS DESERVED.

WHEN COPS DO WRONG AND ARE BLATANTLY CAUGHT, THEY GET OFF!!!

That’s my point

 

[YouMadd?]

The average black person condemns these criminals act. False narrative and respectability politics from CACs like you are outdated and WE see past that now.

I think you should evolve your thinking past calling someone a cac because you are so emotionally invested in online debating. Our debate has no effect on the real world. So simmer down, guy.

I dont give a fukk about "respectability", I only give a fukk about a black patriarch being killed. Thats it.

What does the murder of Dorn accomplish? Literally nothing. These riots accomplish nothing as well. I'll see you in 5 to 10 years when everyone wants to riot again.........

Meanwhile i'll being at an undisclosed location eating a salad I grew myself laughing at people still begging whites for freedom.

 

[Creflo ½ Dollar]

which is why the whole black on black crime shyt is such a bullshyt deflection.

when black on black crime happens and the perpetrator is caught, THEY GOTO fukkIN JAIL AS DESERVED.

WHEN COPS DO WRONG AND ARE BLATANTLY CAUGHT, THEY GET OFF!!!

Sonwhy the major focus on something that honestly happens once in a blue moon statistics wise...when you got other unsolved murders happen at a waaaaaay more alarming rate.


For example a city like Chicago only a quarter of black murders ever get solved. But where is the worldwide protest. One time that had a weekend where 75 people got shyt. And only one person got arrested. So yea any person with a little critical thinking will always wonder why black lives are valued on a scale.

 

[Rekkapryde]

Sonwhy the major focus on something that honestly happens once in a blue moon statistics wise...when you got other unsolved murders happen at a waaaaaay more alarming rate.


For example a city like Chicago only a quarter of black murders ever get solved. But where is the worldwide protest. One time that had a weekend where 75 people got shyt. And only one person got arrested. So yea any person with a little critical thinking will always wonder why black lives are valued on a scale.

2 diff situations.

every group kills their own. EVERY SINGLE ONE. But when the perp is caught, they goto jail. THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.

 

[Creflo ½ Dollar]

2 diff situations.

every group kills their own. EVERY SINGLE ONE. But when the perp is caught, they goto jail. THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.

A lot of perps get caught and get off...because witnesses don’t come forward.

So the number of black murders that dnt get solved dnt move you.

So you telling me it don’t matter that we kill each other at the highest rate in America. Our deaths only matter when a white man kill us got it.

 

[Rekkapryde]

A lot of perps get caught and get off...because witnesses don’t come forward.

So the number of black murders that dnt get solved dnt move you.

So you telling me it don’t matter that we kill each other at the highest rate in America. Our deaths only matter when a white man kill us got it.

man you soundin' REAL CAC'ish right. The number of perps who get off vs cops don't even fukkin compare.

 

[Creflo ½ Dollar]

man you soundin' REAL CAC'ish right. The number of perps who get off vs cops don't even fukkin compare.

Maybe the percentage, cops are given the benefit of a doubt too much. I don’t agree with that. Cops do get off too much. But the number of unsolved black murders and vs cops murders dmt even compare.

So like I ask you before..you only outraged when a cop gets off but when in reality a lot of killers of black men are walking around in their neighborhood like ain’t shyt happening. Yea they probably ain’t go to court but I’m essence they still got off.


I can play that game too..the number of cops who Murder us dnt even compare to how much we murder each other if we going by the stats.

 

[Rekkapryde]

Maybe the percentage, cops are given the benefit of a doubt too much. I don’t agree with that. Cops do get off too much. But the number of unsolved black murders and vs cops murders dmt even compare.

So like I ask you before..you only outraged when a cop gets off but when in reality a lot of killers of black men are walking around in their neighborhood like ain’t shyt happening. Yea they probably ain’t go to court but I’m essence they still got off.


I can play that game too..the number of cops who Murder us dnt even compare to how much we murder each other if we going by the stats.

Dog, fukk dem nikkaz too. It don't have to be one or the other. You can be pissed at both. With blavk on black shyt, a lot of times it's cats that are doin dirt already so when they kill each other that's on them. When they kill innocent people, fukk dem nikkaz and they need to be locked up or dealt wit

 

[Carlton Banks]

Actually Floyd’s killer was on the street less time than Dorn’s killer. I didn’t see no uproar over that. I was just making a point that the uproar over regular non cop killed Black Death is non existent..

Police brutality is a real problem but statistics shows you that unarmed black people rarely get killed by police. So why go all up in arms about an anomaly but not the deaths of black men that are present in our everyday lives. Why put extra value on lives that get taken by police. That what I’m trying to say. You got 1000s of unsolved black murders all around America but since they not
Killed by a police it doesn’t matter and people dnt get worked up.


And what don’t u get...people are actually dismissing this mans death...if I dismissed George Floyd’s death I would get banned on the spot. Why are we dismissing a black mans death at the hands of criminals.

Yeah, the dismissal part is the shyt that kills me. "Oh, the killer got caught and charged appropriately. Problem solved, on to the next."

Like breh... that man protected and served his community for over 40 years and got repaid with a bullet to his body by his own kind. That man had 10 grandchildren. Whole life ruined over a TV that the nikka ain't even gonna be able to watch

But I guess since justice got served, it's not an issue right? smh

This thread is a microcosm as to why Black Americans wont get what they "want" in this country, Assuming what we want is "Freedom"....

If that piece of shyt who killed Dorn were to get killed by the cops in an unjust way, people in this thread would literally care more bout that then the fact that this dude murdered a Patriarch of a black family...

FACTS! But I guess it's not militant sounding enough. Am I as a black man not allowed to be mad about black on black violence? If I'm yelling and posting "Black Lives Matter" shouldn't I be pissed when one of us gets killed by one of us? I'm mad at both the cops and those of us that kill each other. But it seems like majority of us are only mad and vocal when cops/white people kill us.

 

[Spliff]

Actually Floyd’s killer was on the street less time than Dorn’s killer. I didn’t see no uproar over that. I was just making a point that the uproar over regular non cop killed Black Death is non existent..

Police brutality is a real problem but statistics shows you that unarmed black people rarely get killed by police. So why go all up in arms about an anomaly but not the deaths of black men that are present in our everyday lives. Why put extra value on lives that get taken by police. That what I’m trying to say. You got 1000s of unsolved black murders all around America but since they not
Killed by a police it doesn’t matter and people dnt get worked up.


And what don’t u get...people are actually dismissing this mans death...if I dismissed George Floyd’s death I would get banned on the spot. Why are we dismissing a black mans death at the hands of criminals.

You took a handful of coli posters on demon time (probably young) and extrapolated their opinion onto the entire world. Meanwhile, @Booksnrain has a stickied thread in TLR with posts highlighting how bullshyt the "what about black on black crime" deflection is:

• https://www.thecoli.com/threads/boo...cy-talking-points.784310/page-3#post-37925532
• https://www.thecoli.com/threads/boo...cy-talking-points.784310/page-3#post-37934265

But since you swear nobody cares (we do), have you done anything to correct or bring attention to these non-police-related black deaths?

And extra value is put on police killings because they're paid to know better.

It goes hand-in-hand with racism within criminal-justice system.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...nal-justice-system-is-racist-heres-the-proof/

...which is why protestors/activists aren't just settling on sentencing Chauvin, but pushing for major systemic changes too.

 

[Ish Gibor]

I do not condone what happened, but after watching the Amazing Lucas (who made some valid point), I looked at it from his point of view. So I decided to look up articles and stats of the St. Louis PD, and it doesn't look nice. This is not to mock or make light of what has happened to David Dorn.

From 2013-2019, St. Louis Metropolitan Police Department killed 34 black men and Oklahoma City Police Department killed 25 black men. This is an average rate of 7.0 per 100,000 black male population in St. Louis and 8.5 per 100,000 black male population in Oklahoma City - a higher rate than the 2018 US Murder Rate of 5.0 per 100,000.

Police Accountability Tool — Mapping Police Violence

In the post-Ferguson era, public opinion remains divided about the ways that race and gender intersect in relation to law enforcement’s use of lethal force. Addressing this tension within research, we explored race-gender differences in the likelihood of being killed while unarmed. More specifically, we identified 1,762 fatal interactions with police that occurred over a 20-month time period, and merged them with the nationally representative Law Enforcement Management and Administrative Statistics survey, Uniform Crime Reports data, and census characteristics. Using hierarchical linear models, we find the odds that black Americans will be killed by police when unarmed are nearly 7 to 1—more than double the odds found in research to date—and due primarily to the unarmed status of black women.

Washington University in St. Louis

St. Louis Cops Lead Nation in Rate of Police Shootings

South Bend and St. Louis, Where Crime Statistics Can Mislead

Police shoot far more people than anyone realized, a VICE News investigation reveals

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

https://www.kmov.com/news/man-charg...cle_710c43a6-a90d-11ea-a7fb-773f3e096e33.html

The irony of it all is that the retired captain oversaw a platoon of cops in a department who targeted black men with impunity only for a black man to take his life in the same manner... The universe corrects itself often