David Goggins. A Black Man you should know.

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Military members.....

Is it normal to fail your ASVAB twice, then leave the Air Force & take 3 tries to become a SEAL?

:patrice:

You can take the asvab as many times as you like but you have periods you have to wait between tests

People get out of one branch and come back in all the time.

By his own admission he was not supposed to have been given so many chances to pass hell week. I imagine it order to get a 2nd chance at hell week you have to be a prime candidate who didn't finish due to really extenuating circumstances
 

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Why is he so angry?



Something happened to him as a child. It's very obvious.


This is angry to you? I need to check myself on how I'm percieved then. I'm about to be done soon, and I know for a fact that civilianism disgust me... and I can't be walking around with a scowl on my face.
 

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I paused at the fabric of his early unfolding and how it may have shaped some of his mentality, but I don't sense "agent" from the man. He's to rooted in himself to be a pawn like that. Even his alluding to direct white racism he experienced himself factors into his drive. The message is based in "do for self"... which isn't a "bootstrappism" nod. Alternatives to psychological centeredness for black men is a good thing, as we are familiar with general militancy, anti-establishment, etc. I'm an astute stoic...so I already navigate a path that fits a similar narrative. I get it tho.


I'm at exactly 200 pages in his book, and I agree. So far, I feel like the message of David's book is saying that "Life is going to suck sometimes, and when it does, the only person who can save you is yourself." Which is true, because when shyt happens, who's really got our backs except for us? Support systems are wonderful, but that's just it -- they're support systems. They can't do everything for you, as much as we may wish for it sometimes. And I think David's mentality in that regard, to take it one step further, is "What will you do even in the events when you don't have that support system?" He didn't have his mom or his on-again/off-again wife Pam with him during Hell Week those three times. While he had other people enduring it with him, it's his own mind that got him through it. It's not like dude was tanking it no problem either, he was close to quitting numerous times. Even he acknowledges just how insane it all is.

His dad was an absolute piece of shyt, to be sure, but he also faced a lot of turmoil being the only black kid in his environment, and a lot of his growth comes from him accepting both sides of the trauma. I highly doubt that someone like David, being the man that's been through everything that he has, is then going to turn around and preach Bootstrap Tactics. The fundamental difference, I believe, is in the intention. David is all about conquering life by accepting that there will be suffering, and the only way to grow stronger is to welcome it and use it to steel our resolve. There's so many circumstances that occurred in his life that could've set him on a terrible path had someone older than him or wiser didn't make a decision in a split-second, and he knows this.

He could go out and say "Well, if I was an overweight kid who dealt with abuse and was heading down the wrong path and became a Navy SEAL, there's no excuse for you!", but then he'd be forgetting exactly where he came from and what it took to get him there. It'd be like Elon Musk laughing at a homeless man because the homeless guy wasn't able to own Uber at the same age Elon owned PayPal. At that point, you're throwing the baby out with the bathwater, and then where would we be?
 
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He actually spoke on the George Floyd shooting and had ETHER for cacs lmao they were all in the IG comments mad. I'll have to post it..

Edit* here it is:

And David's message about racism/cards that life give you in the book was very pragmatic: his thing is no one is going to save you and you gotta do for self. It demands that oppressed/handicap people be exceptional but hes not wrong though. You have to save yourself. :yeshrug:

Thanks for posting this. You could hear the pain in his voice as he reminisced on all the racist shyt he endured in his childhood to the point he became militant.

Then all the conflict he faced internally as he realized not all white people are bad. But too many still are

But ultimately if they are the ones in power then the change has to start with them unfortunately
 

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Military members.....

Is it normal to fail your ASVAB twice, then leave the Air Force & take 3 tries to become a SEAL?

:patrice:
Most would've gave up or not even had a shot after failing asvab twice.

shyt let alone leaving the air force then joining as a seal.

shyt is UNHEARD OF
 
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