DBZ Experts: How strong were the Cell Jrs?

[stepbackj34spud]

Yea me too, just the most logically sense. Main reason Vegeta kept his rationale in ape form was due to being an elite I think, low level saiyans acted all rabid and shyt. Would be a waste of time to transform into an ape for a power up that's pretty obsolete to super saiyan power. That and it causes problems living with humans.

There's a lot of people who think they were born without tales just because they've never been showed with one... Crazy.

 

[Nymbus]

Toriyama wasn't the best with details sometimes it's best not to think about them. Trunks and Goten never had tails cause he straight up forgot.

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[twan83]

And the funniest shyt is that it showed just how advanced Goku is when it comes to fighting technique. Same shyt that both Vegeta and Trunks thought was some hot shyt, took Goku 5 fukking seconds to realize that was wrong as hell.

Wrong vegeta knew but didn't get stronger cuz he didn't have a great sparring partner like Gohan
Goku got that strong cuz Gohan gave him that work in the time chamber once he caught on how to fight like his dad
Goku needed Gohan to give him that boost why do u think he got so strong so quick in less time compared to vegeta
Hell I bet vegeta didn't even spar with trunks at all
Vegeta knew the weakness cuz even cell stated that why couldn't trunks realize that

 

[King Koopa]

Wrong vegeta knew but didn't get stronger cuz he didn't have a great sparring partner like Gohan
Goku got that strong cuz Gohan gave him that work in the time chamber once he caught on how to fight like his dad
Goku needed Gohan to give him that boost why do u think he got so strong so quick in less time compared to vegeta
Hell I bet vegeta didn't even spar with trunks at all
Vegeta knew the weakness cuz even cell stated that why couldn't trunks realize that

The way y'all dudes spin shyt still continues to amaze me. Goku gave Gohan that work when sparring at all times. Goku never shown any signs of struggle. If I'm wrong then find me some clips of proof.

Vegeta could've sparred with Trunks, but his dumbass pride made him wanna train alone. Dude even back handed Trunks with that same line. And Vegeta didn't get stronger simply cuz he didn't know how. He thought that was the limit and all he needed. Goku's solution wasn't just training, it was adapting to the SSJ form and staying in that state for days instead of just for sudden power ups.

You guys really do just block shyt out of your memories when it comes to prasing your prince don't you

 

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long live the king.

 

[twan83]

The way y'all dudes spin shyt still continues to amaze me. Goku gave Gohan that work when sparring at all times. Goku never shown any signs of struggle. If I'm wrong then find me some clips of proof.

Vegeta could've sparred with Trunks, but his dumbass pride made him wanna train alone. Dude even back handed Trunks with that same line. And Vegeta didn't get stronger simply cuz he didn't know how. He thought that was the limit and all he needed. Goku's solution wasn't just training, it was adapting to the SSJ form and staying in that state for days instead of just for sudden power ups.

You guys really do just block shyt out of your memories when it comes to prasing your prince don't you

Breh u spinning shyt urself of course goku did for awhile but it got a point where Gohan caught up to him how the hell u think he got so strong so quick
Ur going by when goku Carried Gohan all Those times after a spar
Keep in mind it was the later parts where Gohan got stronger than goku
When goku got a glimpse that Gohan was stronger for that brief power up I say around then is when goku got his hands full then Gohan started to surpass him
How the hell u think he was stronger than him even before his rage for ssj2
His ssj1 form was stronger that is a fact and proven cuz all of them even cell said his power is stronger than goku

If u wanna say experience wise and all that I get that part

 

[Mob H]

Gohan SSJ1 was definitely > Goku at the time. Probably not "giving him that work" level but still stronger. Remember when he said he thought Goku was holding back cause he was comparing Goku's power to his own.

 

[twan83]

Proof of Gohan being stronger

Dragon Ball 404 - Read Dragon Ball 404 Online - Page 7

Dragon Ball 404 - Read Dragon Ball 404 Online - Page 8


Dragon Ball 405 - Read Dragon Ball 405 Online - Page 3

Didn't even use his true speed on goku
Dragon Ball 400 - Read Dragon Ball 400 Online - Page 14

On Gohan he did
Dragon Ball 405 - Read Dragon Ball 405 Online - Page 7


If anything goku is a better fighter but was not stronger than Gohan
Goku lives to fight and trains for Gohan fights only cuz he has too he desires peace

This is all from manga that shows Gohan was stronger than goku in room of time spirit just cuz anime didn't show Gohan giving goku work don't mean shyt if goku was always doing that then he would of beaten but he knew he couldn't he need Gohan to do it granted his hidden power to explode of course but like I said before his ssj was stronger than goku pure facts

 

[twan83]

Gohan SSJ1 was definitely > Goku at the time. Probably not "giving him that work" level but still stronger. Remember when he said he thought Goku was holding back cause he was comparing Goku's power to his own.

It's just the anime shows goku carrying Gohan in the room all the time my guess is when goku saw that glimpse gohan started to pull even then started to beat goku in sparring they didn't just show it that's all

 

[King Koopa]

Breh u spinning shyt urself of course goku did for awhile but it got a point where Gohan caught up to him how the hell u think he got so strong so quick
Ur going by when goku Carried Gohan all Those times after a spar
Keep in mind it was the later parts where Gohan got stronger than goku
When goku got a glimpse that Gohan was stronger for that brief power up I say around then is when goku got his hands full then Gohan started to surpass him
How the hell u think he was stronger than him even before his rage for ssj2
His ssj1 form was stronger that is a fact and proven cuz all of them even cell said his power is stronger than goku

If u wanna say experience wise and all that I get that part

Breh you said giving him that work. That's what made me all . Goku knew Gohan would surpass him quickly. Hell Goku's whole point in the room was to bring out Gohan's hidden potential. Dude was hoping all that training will send him over that edge.

Also that fact that you used that as an excuse for why Goku got so much stronger than Vegeta is bs cuz Vegeta could've went Goku's route to get stronger if he had used his head a bit more. Goku got used to the energy the SSJ form put out which led to more growth in power overall.

 

[3:30]

half saiyans dont grow tails idiots...



















jk, but so much of that show was unbalanced its ridiculous. they claim they didnt want to use them anymore which makes sense because no fusion has one

 

[3:30]

also vegetto fighting style was the best out of all fusions imo. 1000 times more cocky than gogeta but i wish he popped up more

 

[Ironman]

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Nah...he said he straight forgot to draw them.

 

[CookisaCac]

Hell no. Even Piccolo was stronger than them after training in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber.

They were about Goku Strength, and Goku was worn out and tired from that previous fight.

Piccolo didnt train in the time chamber

 

[Nymbus]

Nah...he said he straight forgot to draw them.

that was the story explanation he gave