DC4 came and went? :jbhmm:

[SirBiatch]

I don't think that something "came and went" objectively. A lot of great music doesn't even get the buzz it deserves in its time. A lot of people have died and had their music become legendary, look at classical composers who weren't famous in their time.

Let's keep our examples hip hop. Who in hip hop has died, made came-and-went music and suddenly became legendary?

Max B was never poppin like that in the mainstream but since he got 75 yrs Kanye named his album Waves and had him do the intro.

Max B is still not poppin and no one cares

My point is cultural significance is not totally defined by popularity.

Totally agree

Drake's Views is the most popular Hip Hop album in the entire 10's decade and will be probably till his next album, but is it really the most culturally significant? I'm not saying DC4 is going to have lasting impact but I'm not saying it wont. Maybe it'll be one of those things that grows maybe it wont. I'm not even a Meek fan. All I'm saying is it takes years before we can look back at something and say this was impactful and this was just a fad.

Drake is a pop rapper and not a good example. Nobody's saying that "you sell the most = most cultural significant."

But the point is that you can't come and go. Liquid Swords took 20 years to get plat, but it eventually went plat. Probably went gold back then, too. The point is... it didn't come and go. Heads loved it and it grew in acclaim over the years. There were obvious standout tracks. Strong, undeniable projects never come and go. They are always acknowledged in real time and sell respectable units. Not crazy units, but respectable.

shyt... look at Live.Love.ASAP. It wasn't radio friendly at all and it definitely hasn't come and go. Meek and Rocky had the same breakout year.

DC4 has zero standout songs. Arguably 100% trash. So it came and went

 

[10bandz]

Let's keep our examples hip hop. Who in hip hop has died, made came-and-went music and suddenly became legendary?



Max B is still not poppin and no one cares



Totally agree



Drake is a pop rapper and not a good example. Nobody's saying that "you sell the most = most cultural significant."

But the point is that you can't come and go. Liquid Swords took 20 years to get plat, but it eventually went plat. Probably went gold back then, too. The point is... it didn't come and go. Heads loved it and it grew in acclaim over the years. There were obvious standout tracks. Strong, undeniable projects never come and go.

shyt... look at Live.Love.ASAP. It wasn't radio friendly at all and it definitely hasn't come and go. Meek and Rocky had the same breakout year.

DC4 has zero standout songs. Arguably 100% trash. So it came and went

 

[deeznutz]

It came and went because Meek is just an unlikable person. The first 3 tracks were not bad at all but then the album just turns into some repetitive bullshyt lol The screaming gets played out after about 12 mins. Maybe next time Meeky Mouse

 

[onelastdeath]

Meek and Rocky had the same breakout year.

I always forget this and I don't know why. But they don't seem like the same era even though they are. Weird.

 

[SirBiatch]

It came and went because Meek is just an unlikable person. The first 3 tracks were not bad at all but then the album just turns into some repetitive bullshyt lol The screaming gets played out after about 12 mins. Maybe next time Meeky Mouse

Meek is a perfect example of "how the fukk did this ever become hot? fukk were we thinking?"

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

The first 3 tracks were not bad at all but then the album just turns into some repetitive bullshyt

I can tell u didn't listen to it, spreading tales because u a Drake stan, embarrassing lol

 

[Da King]

shyt has a few good tracks but no one going to be talking about this in a couple weeks

 

[SirBiatch]

shyt has a few good tracks but no one going to be talking about this in a couple weeks

are Shine and Litty considered good tracks? I checked them shyts and

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

are Shine and Litty considered good tracks? I checked them shyts and

You are not a hip-hop fan foh

 

[Da King]

are Shine and Litty considered good tracks? I checked them shyts and

On the regular, outro also good joints

 

[10bandz]

You are not a hip-hop fan foh

"Remember when Biggie sampled Ashanti?" -

 

[Broke Wave]

Let's keep our examples hip hop. Who in hip hop has died, made came-and-went music and suddenly became legendary?



Max B is still not poppin and no one cares



Totally agree



Drake is a pop rapper and not a good example. Nobody's saying that "you sell the most = most cultural significant."

But the point is that you can't come and go. Liquid Swords took 20 years to get plat, but it eventually went plat. Probably went gold back then, too. The point is... it didn't come and go. Heads loved it and it grew in acclaim over the years. There were obvious standout tracks. Strong, undeniable projects never come and go. They are always acknowledged in real time and sell respectable units. Not crazy units, but respectable.

shyt... look at Live.Love.ASAP. It wasn't radio friendly at all and it definitely hasn't come and go. Meek and Rocky had the same breakout year.

DC4 has zero standout songs. Arguably 100% trash. So it came and went

Max B is more famous and poppin now than when he was killing it in the mid 00's and that's the point. Not only is my username based off him, theres like 20 other posters with Max B related usernames, and I've had this name since 2007 on SOHH.

Anyway, strong undeniable projects don't always sell respectable units. Illmatic didn't go platinum till much later. That's the most famous example but there are dozens of examples like that. Meek is more relevant than Rocky musically in 2016 so you could say Rocky came and went under your metric. If you think DC4 is 100% trash that's your opinion really, but we're talking about objectively speaking. Under what logic did Live Love Asap have staying power if Meek's 2011 work came and went? Let time decide the cultural relevance of things. You're always talking about how Kendrick is fake praise from Critics, but under your metric of decent sales and critical acclaim, Kendrick is actually a legend.

 

[stealthbomber]

ima need some receipts on it coming and going

you can't make statements like this without proof

ill wait

 

[deeznutz]

I can tell u didn't listen to it, spreading tales because u a Drake stan, embarrassing lol

I've never liked Meek he's always been a very unoriginal rapper to me and his beat selection for the most part sucks. I decided to give the album a listen because he's been promoting it for the past year and a half like it was the second coming of christ and it was trash!

outside of about 3-5 tracks I can't stand drake either I thought Views was trash but I still gave it a chance. just because someone is from toronto doesn't make them a dikk rider that's your lane bro

 

[The Ruler 09]

A lot of people talking about the album right now, ridiculous thread considering it's just been released.

And I skimmed the album today, gonna revisit it but I didn't think it was amazing, it had some decent ish, some good bars and skill at points, some decent beats too. A little too samey for my personal taste, not really the Meek I want to hear but I understand it also. There's a few joints on there.... Already know he can rap, would like to hear some more growth though...