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DDG says today’s generation of rappers are better than rappers from back in the day.
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@DrexlersFade the site wont let me post videos but I'm going to try and compare a few things
1st I want to talk about how artist have gotten better over the years as an MC technically even it it doesn't mean more record.
1) Compare Jeezy- Go Crazy ft Jay Z to Jeezy - Seen it All ft Jay Z
I love both song and couldn't tell you which one is the better song. If you listen to them back to back you can tell Jeezy is way more technical on the microphone then he is on Go Crazy. I don't think Jeezy goes past 10 syllables for each bar on Go Crazy. The way Jeezy structures his bars is was more natural to the way we'd think he talks in everyday life. It doesn't sound like he's rearranging the way he talks to rhyme in Seen it All and instead he raps as if he talking to us naturally. The show money blow money rhyme scheme he does is more technical than anything he did on Go Crazy. Even Jay Z who I believe is the best well rounded rapper got better in the time frame. His flow is better on seen it all, his delivery is better as well. You can tell the delivery is better when Jay really wants to emphasize a bar. In Go Crazy he does this with "The dope boys go crazy when they hear that nikka Jay Z". In seen it all he wants to emphasize "Tossing round (K)nicks".
Jeezy raps closer to Seen it All after this point and abandons the more simple flow, rhyme scheme, and simile metaphors for wordplay, entendre metaphors, and internal rhyming within his bars.
2) Compare Rick Ross - Hustlin to Rick Ross - Amsterdam
I like both songs here same content you know what it is its Ross. In Hustlin Ross relies on using his delivery and doubling vocals to make you sing along when he says something witty. He flips the same words a few times in Hustlin and rhymes it with its self. For example the Noreaga bar and the 222 bars. In Amsterdam Ross's flow is way free and so are his lyrics. In Amsterdam Ross hides his wit with metaphors without using similes
Ross still uses some of the less technical things that made Hustlin a success like his delivery for parts that he wants the audience to sing a long with. Off the top of my head the part in I'm on One when he says, "Ever make love to the woman of your dreams out in London counting money when she screams!", and on Pop That when he says, "We the 2 Live Crew 2 for me 2 for you!".
3) Compare The Game Westside Story to The Game Eazy
Still like both songs. Both songs are about his past as a gang member and escaping his West Coast hood through rap. He also connects his lyrics better within the bars and bar to bar. On Westside Story Game uses 1 flow for 3 verses, uses a bunch of name dropping, and uses similes for metaphors. Honestly Westside Story sounds like he's concentrating very hard on the bars reading it off the paper as he goes along. Eazy sounds way more natural even if a lot of the bars are abstract.
When Game says,
Run into the Crips, it ain't no discussion
Bullet wounds drenched in Hennessy and teaspoons of Robitussin
Head up fades, got a few concussion, yeah
Compton's amazed, Dr. Dre percussion"
Game carries the same rhyme for 4 bars rhyming the last 3 syllables.
When the Game says,
God, please grant my nikka eternal life, we need the beats
Aftermath wherе you fall asleep, you do not eat
And my belly is full, gorilla ridin' the bull
Banana clips in thе pool, swan dive in Clase Azul
Here the Game brings together 4 bars with a theme of needing Dre beats to escape his hood to get to swim in a pool of expensive tequila. The 3 animals and what one of what those animals eat as an entendre. A 2005 Game verse would have just been him saying, "Been there, done that, sold crack, got jacked Got shot, came back, jumped on Dre's back" like he does on Westside Story.
The Game still name drops on Eazy but it is not I'm doing such and such feeling like so and so. In Easy he hides fellow West Coast rappers Problem, YG, and Ty Dolla $ign names in the bar
Too many Problems, too many YGs
So many ties to dollar signs, easy to end up on E
4) 2 Chainz
He got a lot better. Hes on Thought I Was Gonna Stop and
5) A$AP Rocky
His bars got stepped up. I recommend listening to Wave Gods, Lost and Found Freestyle 20129, and The God Hour
Alright now comparing rappers today to some rappers in the earlier 2000s.
1) TI - Rubberband Man to Moneybagg Yo - Said Sum
Both songs are hits about the same subject, Southern nikkas getting money. Both songs got catchy hooks and were everywhere when they came out.
TI relies on similes for metaphors for example, "Treat these nikka's like the Apollo and I'm the Sandman". For almost every bar in the first verse Moneybagg Yo uses a double entendre to link what he says at the begging of the bar to the end of the bar. TI uses a slower flow but that fits the song because its all meant for people to sing a long to. Moneybagg Yo has a more out of control flow to fit with his comedic bars and wordplay.
2) Nelly Country Grammer to Roddy Rich - The Box
I swear to god these two are the most catchy debut singles about shooting shyt up. I remember where I was when I heard both of these saying, "Damn I haven't heard something like this before. Run that back." Both rappers kinda rap/sing throughout their verses. Again Nelly uses one flow throughout the whole song, and Roddy Rich switches up the flows. Nelly uses similes for his bars and Roddy uses metaphors. If you liked Country's Grammer back then I don't know how you can't like this song. Try to get someone to learn the words to each song and I think the average person would have a harder time rapping the Roddy verses.
3,4,5) There is a lot of trash out there today that's true but lets not forget Snap, Crunk, The Ying Yang Twins, Little Kid Rappers, Chingy, J Kwon, Bizarre, MIMS. I'd listen to Durk It's hard not using the big 3 rappers today but I think I might have to for more examples. I mean if I just went off what Hov said, "Only dudes moving units Em, Pimp Juice, and us." I think its fair to say Kendrick, Cole, and Drake have shown technical skills with mcing and the way they structure their words and the way they rhyme their words to be more technical than Em, Jay, and even if we replace Nelly with Nas. Even Kendrick, Cole, and Drake have increased the technicality in the way they rap from when they started. Cole used to rap like an old Rocafella rapper on his mixtapes but he stepped it up a lot and you can tell by his guest features that he has dropped this year and last. Drake there's a question on his pen so you can leave him in or take him out I don't care. Those 6 rappers sound closer to each other now then even their old selves if they makes sense.
Sorry I got lazy here at the end but if you give me some rappers you like back then I can try to recommend you someone to listen to.
TLDR
At the end of the day what the audience considers better depends on the person because it is all art. People react stronger to the words you say, others to the way the words are put together, others to the flow, other the way the rappers voice is on the track, others how catchy it is.
Aight after typing all this I'm mad I can't link these songs or highlight them in any way. I might save this if I need to so that I can add more examples. This took a long time cause its late and I'm a dumb ass and was typing the lyrics out in the beginning instead of copying and pasting or linking a video at a certain time. I don't have a English degree or anything like that. Hell I almost failed HS Freshman year English until I remixed rap song for something and the teacher liked it and gave me a shyt ton of extra credit. From there I learned the little ways rappers express themselves in their music and figure what literary tools they use make themselves stand out from saying some simple shyt.
1st I want to talk about how artist have gotten better over the years as an MC technically even it it doesn't mean more record.
1) Compare Jeezy- Go Crazy ft Jay Z to Jeezy - Seen it All ft Jay Z
I love both song and couldn't tell you which one is the better song. If you listen to them back to back you can tell Jeezy is way more technical on the microphone then he is on Go Crazy. I don't think Jeezy goes past 10 syllables for each bar on Go Crazy. The way Jeezy structures his bars is was more natural to the way we'd think he talks in everyday life. It doesn't sound like he's rearranging the way he talks to rhyme in Seen it All and instead he raps as if he talking to us naturally. The show money blow money rhyme scheme he does is more technical than anything he did on Go Crazy. Even Jay Z who I believe is the best well rounded rapper got better in the time frame. His flow is better on seen it all, his delivery is better as well. You can tell the delivery is better when Jay really wants to emphasize a bar. In Go Crazy he does this with "The dope boys go crazy when they hear that nikka Jay Z". In seen it all he wants to emphasize "Tossing round (K)nicks".
Jeezy raps closer to Seen it All after this point and abandons the more simple flow, rhyme scheme, and simile metaphors for wordplay, entendre metaphors, and internal rhyming within his bars.
2) Compare Rick Ross - Hustlin to Rick Ross - Amsterdam
I like both songs here same content you know what it is its Ross. In Hustlin Ross relies on using his delivery and doubling vocals to make you sing along when he says something witty. He flips the same words a few times in Hustlin and rhymes it with its self. For example the Noreaga bar and the 222 bars. In Amsterdam Ross's flow is way free and so are his lyrics. In Amsterdam Ross hides his wit with metaphors without using similes
Ross still uses some of the less technical things that made Hustlin a success like his delivery for parts that he wants the audience to sing a long with. Off the top of my head the part in I'm on One when he says, "Ever make love to the woman of your dreams out in London counting money when she screams!", and on Pop That when he says, "We the 2 Live Crew 2 for me 2 for you!".
3) Compare The Game Westside Story to The Game Eazy
Still like both songs. Both songs are about his past as a gang member and escaping his West Coast hood through rap. He also connects his lyrics better within the bars and bar to bar. On Westside Story Game uses 1 flow for 3 verses, uses a bunch of name dropping, and uses similes for metaphors. Honestly Westside Story sounds like he's concentrating very hard on the bars reading it off the paper as he goes along. Eazy sounds way more natural even if a lot of the bars are abstract.
When Game says,
Run into the Crips, it ain't no discussion
Bullet wounds drenched in Hennessy and teaspoons of Robitussin
Head up fades, got a few concussion, yeah
Compton's amazed, Dr. Dre percussion"
Game carries the same rhyme for 4 bars rhyming the last 3 syllables.
When the Game says,
God, please grant my nikka eternal life, we need the beats
Aftermath wherе you fall asleep, you do not eat
And my belly is full, gorilla ridin' the bull
Banana clips in thе pool, swan dive in Clase Azul
Here the Game brings together 4 bars with a theme of needing Dre beats to escape his hood to get to swim in a pool of expensive tequila. The 3 animals and what one of what those animals eat as an entendre. A 2005 Game verse would have just been him saying, "Been there, done that, sold crack, got jacked Got shot, came back, jumped on Dre's back" like he does on Westside Story.
The Game still name drops on Eazy but it is not I'm doing such and such feeling like so and so. In Easy he hides fellow West Coast rappers Problem, YG, and Ty Dolla $ign names in the bar
Too many Problems, too many YGs
So many ties to dollar signs, easy to end up on E
4) 2 Chainz
He got a lot better. Hes on Thought I Was Gonna Stop and
5) A$AP Rocky
His bars got stepped up. I recommend listening to Wave Gods, Lost and Found Freestyle 20129, and The God Hour
Alright now comparing rappers today to some rappers in the earlier 2000s.
1) TI - Rubberband Man to Moneybagg Yo - Said Sum
Both songs are hits about the same subject, Southern nikkas getting money. Both songs got catchy hooks and were everywhere when they came out.
TI relies on similes for metaphors for example, "Treat these nikka's like the Apollo and I'm the Sandman". For almost every bar in the first verse Moneybagg Yo uses a double entendre to link what he says at the begging of the bar to the end of the bar. TI uses a slower flow but that fits the song because its all meant for people to sing a long to. Moneybagg Yo has a more out of control flow to fit with his comedic bars and wordplay.
2) Nelly Country Grammer to Roddy Rich - The Box
I swear to god these two are the most catchy debut singles about shooting shyt up. I remember where I was when I heard both of these saying, "Damn I haven't heard something like this before. Run that back." Both rappers kinda rap/sing throughout their verses. Again Nelly uses one flow throughout the whole song, and Roddy Rich switches up the flows. Nelly uses similes for his bars and Roddy uses metaphors. If you liked Country's Grammer back then I don't know how you can't like this song. Try to get someone to learn the words to each song and I think the average person would have a harder time rapping the Roddy verses.
3,4,5) There is a lot of trash out there today that's true but lets not forget Snap, Crunk, The Ying Yang Twins, Little Kid Rappers, Chingy, J Kwon, Bizarre, MIMS. I'd listen to Durk It's hard not using the big 3 rappers today but I think I might have to for more examples. I mean if I just went off what Hov said, "Only dudes moving units Em, Pimp Juice, and us." I think its fair to say Kendrick, Cole, and Drake have shown technical skills with mcing and the way they structure their words and the way they rhyme their words to be more technical than Em, Jay, and even if we replace Nelly with Nas. Even Kendrick, Cole, and Drake have increased the technicality in the way they rap from when they started. Cole used to rap like an old Rocafella rapper on his mixtapes but he stepped it up a lot and you can tell by his guest features that he has dropped this year and last. Drake there's a question on his pen so you can leave him in or take him out I don't care. Those 6 rappers sound closer to each other now then even their old selves if they makes sense.
Sorry I got lazy here at the end but if you give me some rappers you like back then I can try to recommend you someone to listen to.
TLDR
At the end of the day what the audience considers better depends on the person because it is all art. People react stronger to the words you say, others to the way the words are put together, others to the flow, other the way the rappers voice is on the track, others how catchy it is.
Aight after typing all this I'm mad I can't link these songs or highlight them in any way. I might save this if I need to so that I can add more examples. This took a long time cause its late and I'm a dumb ass and was typing the lyrics out in the beginning instead of copying and pasting or linking a video at a certain time. I don't have a English degree or anything like that. Hell I almost failed HS Freshman year English until I remixed rap song for something and the teacher liked it and gave me a shyt ton of extra credit. From there I learned the little ways rappers express themselves in their music and figure what literary tools they use make themselves stand out from saying some simple shyt.
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U comparing the same rappers to themselves makes no sense. This post means nothing. And ur talking literally 2005 and up. Bring that shyt back to the early and mid 90s and it’s no contest. U comparing a time when it was considered “cool” to be a hustler and not care about rap to when them same artists started really taking pride in what they do. On average. Rappers are going viral and getting famous before they even fully develop their skills at this point. A lot of the rappers considered “hot” now only been rappin for a short amount of time. Let’s not even bring up the fact that muthafukkas don’t care about having writers anymore. And it just shyts on the argument entirely.
He's right though.These nikkas ain't modern they all came out in like 2008-2009 these young dudes always talk shyt then try to use them as backup like them three wasn't influenced by the nikkas they trying to slight
As nicely as possible, you don't know what you're talking about.
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Who?
DDG came from the crop of NBA 2k content creators who decided to start rapping. Hes pretty much the biggest one from that 2015-2019 era. I thought that Earthworm Jim looking ass nikka FlightTv woulda been first but he’s too goofy. They were so rich and bored that I figured they just starting rhyming in their bedrooms, and since they already had a following and connections they were able to take it far. You can also thank Lyor Chen for that as well. DDG is not a rapper imo, his best song is Moonwalking in Calabasas and Blueface had the better verse on his own shyt
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plug couldnt trust you now u cant trust the plug
Nah he was a college vlogger not 2k player
Thanks, I discovered him while he was streaming 2k. All those dudes did multiple things though, story time, relationship stuff, pranks, basketball challenges and all that dumb shyt