Dead ball or TD? Controversial return helps Memphis beat Mississippi State. EDIT: SEC admits error

What's the right call?

  • Dead ball

    Votes: 16 64.0%
  • Touchdown

    Votes: 9 36.0%

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Silky Johnson

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Yeah, ok. Even thought they admitted it shouldn't have been.

The play was dead..MSU touched it, ending the play.

Directly from the NCAA rule book

SECTION 2. The Ball: Live, Dead, Loose, Ready For Play
Live Ball
ARTICLE 1. A live ball is a ball in play. A pass, kick or fumble that has not yet
touched the ground is a live ball in flight.
Dead Ball
ARTICLE 2. A dead ball is a ball not in play.
Loose Ball
ARTICLE 3. a. A loose ball is a live ball not in player possession during:
1. A running play.
2. A scrimmage or free kick before possession is gained or regained or the
ball is dead by rule.

SECTION 4. Catch, Recovery, Possession
Possession
ARTICLE 1. Possession refers to custody of (a) a live ball as described later in
this article and (b) a dead ball to be snapped or free-kicked. It may refer either
to player possession or team possession.
a. Player Possession.
The ball is in player possession when a player has the ball firmly in his grasp
by holding or controlling it with hand(s) or arm(s) while contacting the
ground inbounds.

b. Team Possession.
The ball is in team possession:
1. When one of its players has player possession, including when he is
attempting a punt, drop kick or place kick; or
2. While a forward pass thrown by a player of that team is in flight; or
3. During a loose ball if a player of that team last had player possession;
or
4. When the team is next to snap or free kick the ball.
c. A team is in legal possession if it has team possession when its players are
eligible to catch or recover the ball.

I don't make the rules, I just had study them because the PSAL refs are trash:yeshrug:


I dead ass had to g check the white hat in more than a few games with a physical copy of the NFHS & NCAA rulebook in my back pocket.
 

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Directly from the NCAA rule book

SECTION 2. The Ball: Live, Dead, Loose, Ready For Play
Live Ball
ARTICLE 1. A live ball is a ball in play. A pass, kick or fumble that has not yet
touched the ground is a live ball in flight.
Dead Ball
ARTICLE 2. A dead ball is a ball not in play.
Loose Ball
ARTICLE 3. a. A loose ball is a live ball not in player possession during:
1. A running play.
2. A scrimmage or free kick before possession is gained or regained or the
ball is dead by rule.

SECTION 4. Catch, Recovery, Possession
Possession
ARTICLE 1. Possession refers to custody of (a) a live ball as described later in
this article and (b) a dead ball to be snapped or free-kicked. It may refer either
to player possession or team possession.
a. Player Possession.
The ball is in player possession when a player has the ball firmly in his grasp
by holding or controlling it with hand(s) or arm(s) while contacting the
ground inbounds.

b. Team Possession.
The ball is in team possession:
1. When one of its players has player possession, including when he is
attempting a punt, drop kick or place kick; or
2. While a forward pass thrown by a player of that team is in flight; or
3. During a loose ball if a player of that team last had player possession;
or
4. When the team is next to snap or free kick the ball.
c. A team is in legal possession if it has team possession when its players are
eligible to catch or recover the ball.

I don't make the rules, I just had study them because the PSAL refs are trash:yeshrug:


I dead ass had to g check the white hat in more than a few games with a physical copy of the NFHS & NCAA rulebook in my back pocket.








Ok. I was talking about the fact that they had two #4's on the field and should have been penalized, negating the TD.
 

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Dead ball but that dude got balls going in and trying to return that ball with defenders surrounding it.
 
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