Dear Bernie Sanders, Sorry I'm The Problem With America

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Dear Bernie Sanders, Sorry I’m The Problem With America


FEBRUARY 22, 2016, 12:26 PM EST
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A tech CEO feels Berned.

I agree with Bernie Sanders. The economy is rigged. In fact, it’s what my father, who is very conservative, taught me about life. Some find it surprising because the general position of liberals seems to be that conservatives don’t realize, or won’t acknowledge, this rigged economy. But my dad’s advice to me time and time again was that the world was rigged and the only way I could make it was to work harder than the people who were in charge of the rigging.

A few years ago I was walking through Harvard Square when a woman holding flyers for Elizabeth Warren stepped in front of me. She asked if I thought the government should pay off student’s debts. I don’t think the government should, but, then again I never had student loans. No, it wasn’t because I was from a wealthy family. I never had student loans because I worked every semester I was in college, and during some summers, I worked two jobs. I did this because I thought the world was rigged against me.

I missed out on a lot, because I worked so much. I didn’t have the life like many of the college students I’ve hired in the last few years. They study what they love — philosophy, political science, art, regardless of whether or not they have good job prospects. They travel. Mostly they seem to go to Vietnam and Cambodia. They eat out a lot more than I did at their age. They know all the trendy restaurants and hot bars.

When I got out of college, I lived well below my means, saving $25,000 so I could start my first business. That business failed miserably. I ended up losing over $50,000 total. It took three years to pay off the credit card debt I wracked up.

Over the next decade, I started three more businesses. Two of which failed. For one of them, a video yellow pages product I built with a friend in 2007, I used to take my vacation days from my “real” job and go door to door, selling video listings to small businesses. I lost a lot of my own money, as my disposable income never went to travel or luxury goods of any kind. It went to business ideas.

I kept at it because I believe, much like Bernie, that the world was rigged against me. I spent every evening after my day job working on side projects, learning new skills, reading. I didn’t own a TV for a long time and, even to this day, I’ve never seen any of the classic shows people like to discuss: The Sopranos, Breaking Bad, Mad Men, Game Of Thrones. I was working while they were on.








When I finally had a company that was successful, the experience of running it was more stressful than you could ever imagine. I had to deal with some really rough things. There was the time when, on the day we were supposed to close our Series C funding round, the lead investor called and said they weren’t going to wire the money. We had six weeks of cash left, and now I had to figure out what to do. There was the time when two of my executives quit within 10 days of each other, making my board and employees all wonder what was going on, and if there was something detrimental going on at the company that I wasn’t telling them.

There was a board meeting where, I took so many rapid fire shots from board members that one of my executives told me afterwards that he would never want to be a CEO and go through something like that. There were things that I can’t write about publicly, but that, if you have ever run a company, you know what I’m talking about. It really sucks to be in charge sometimes.

Despite the strain that entrepreneurship put on my finances, my health, and my personal relationships, I kept at it because I wanted to be successful. And eventually, yes, I became a millionaire. It only took 15 years.

Along the way, I learned a lot. I created over 100 jobs. And in the end I helped build something useful for thousands of companies around the world. But when I hear Bernie speak, I feel like I’m the problem with America. I’m one of those millionaires he mentions who should pay more taxes. I’m the bad guy. I’m the white male who is only successful because everything was handed to me. I don’t deserve the money I made. All the things I sacrificed don’t matter. The additional stress I was under doesn’t matter. The risks I took don’t matter. According to Bernie, the world needs fewer people like me, and more people like the smart Yale student who majors in something useless, travels the world, and then graduates with $100,000 in debt that people like me should pay off via higher taxes.

Yes, the economy is rigged. Any economic structure will favor some at the expense of others. But the wonderful thing about America is that if you are willing to make the right sacrifices, you can achieve whatever you want. Unfortunately, we’ve come to believe that achievement should be easy. Changing that attitude is the first step towards making yourself more successful.

Rob May is the co-founder and CEO of Talla, a Massachusetts-based developer of an intelligent virtual assistant for recruiting teams.
 

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Young voters are failing Bernie Sanders, just as they’ve failed so many before

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Philip Bump February 22 at 11:19 AM
said afterward, drawing out the “u" sound in his distinctive Brooklyn accent, “we won.” The turnout overall was not that huge, but Sanders still received more votes than any previous Democrat in the state by a wide margin.

After Nevada, Sanders's worst loss so far, his analysis was different. “What I’ve said over and over again," he said on “Meet the Press,” “we will do well when young people, when working-class people come out. We do not do well when the voter turnout is not large. We did not do as good a job as I had wanted to bring out a large turnout.”

Sanders is correct that his campaign comes down to young voters. Less so working class voters, it seems; in Nevada, Clinton won low-income voters and Sanders's margin among those earning less than $50,000 a year in Iowa was under 10 points. But among young voters? Sanders is a runaway favorite, earning multiples of Clinton’s support. In Iowa and Nevada, voters under 30 went 6 to 1 for Sanders. In New Hampshire, 5 to 1.


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The age split is probably even a more important split than the one on race, in fact. In Nevada entrance polls, younger Hispanic voters backed Sanders heavily, while older Hispanic voters didn’t. The Wall Street Journal reports a similar split among African American voters.

In the two states Sanders lost — Iowa and Nevada — young voters turned out much less versus their share of the population (as of the most recent Census estimates) than in New Hampshire. Those aged 18 to 30 are a smaller percentage of the population in New Hampshire than they are in Iowa or Nevada, but they turned out about as much in this year’s contests. (There are margins of error on these that are not insignificant, but that's not important at this point.)

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And look at that support for Sanders! Massive.

The problem — which also happens to be the ongoing, perpetual problem for candidates who bank on the youth vote — is that older voters usually over-perform.

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And look at those margins for Hillary Clinton.

We’ve noted repeatedly that young people simply don’t turn out to vote as much as older voters. That overlaps a bit with Sanders’s “working class” comment; income, education level and age are all overlapping groups which tend to vote less frequently. Age alone:

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Hillary Clinton won Nevada in large part because of her overwhelming support from black voters. She won Iowa because older voters turned out more than they did in 2008 and because younger voters turned out less. What’s more, there’s not much evidence that Sanders’s younger voters aremore motivated to turn out for him than are Clinton’s older ones.

This is why campaigns that need younger voters in order to win often don’t. Younger voters — who move more often, work weirder hours and aren’t in the habit of voting — simply don’t vote as much. Which, Bernie Sanders said, is why Hillary Clinton beat him on Saturday.
Young voters are failing Bernie Sanders, just as they’ve failed so many before


How sad :sadcam:

Is it over for Bernie?
 

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It is this type of shyt that infuriates people. I did all of the same things in school, none of that means that it was the way things should be. People keep using their own personal stories as excuses for the status quo. How the fukk can you admit that the economy is rigged and then get upset at someone who wants to change it? The question has never been about the possibility of success, but about what type of sacrifice it takes and the odds of doing it and how far we are willing to let people fall. I have had this discussion with you a bunch of times and you keep repeating this stuff. All due respect, but I am going to go out on a limb and assume that I make more money than 95% of the people posting on this board because I make more money than 95% of people in America (and no I'm not rich, I owe 100k in debt like every other grad student).

Did you ever stop to think about why this group of people--the me's of the world--regardless of how much money we make still lean to the left? Do you ever stop and think that getting to where we are takes that type of sacrifice? Do you think social workers and all these other people in majors of that sort do not know anything about sacrifice? The argument he is making is one about how to navigate an unfair society, not about how to make it more just. You guys keep relying on this "that's how it is bullshyt" when it was people on the left that even got you to this point where his story is possible. This is why on every type of examination conservatives come out as rigid people. You cannot convince someone who does not want to be convinced.
 

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Young voters are failing Bernie Sanders, just as they’ve failed so many before

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Philip Bump February 22 at 11:19 AM
said afterward, drawing out the “u" sound in his distinctive Brooklyn accent, “we won.” The turnout overall was not that huge, but Sanders still received more votes than any previous Democrat in the state by a wide margin.

After Nevada, Sanders's worst loss so far, his analysis was different. “What I’ve said over and over again," he said on “Meet the Press,” “we will do well when young people, when working-class people come out. We do not do well when the voter turnout is not large. We did not do as good a job as I had wanted to bring out a large turnout.”

Sanders is correct that his campaign comes down to young voters. Less so working class voters, it seems; in Nevada, Clinton won low-income voters and Sanders's margin among those earning less than $50,000 a year in Iowa was under 10 points. But among young voters? Sanders is a runaway favorite, earning multiples of Clinton’s support. In Iowa and Nevada, voters under 30 went 6 to 1 for Sanders. In New Hampshire, 5 to 1.


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Get the best analysis of the presidential race.



The age split is probably even a more important split than the one on race, in fact. In Nevada entrance polls, younger Hispanic voters backed Sanders heavily, while older Hispanic voters didn’t. The Wall Street Journal reports a similar split among African American voters.

In the two states Sanders lost — Iowa and Nevada — young voters turned out much less versus their share of the population (as of the most recent Census estimates) than in New Hampshire. Those aged 18 to 30 are a smaller percentage of the population in New Hampshire than they are in Iowa or Nevada, but they turned out about as much in this year’s contests. (There are margins of error on these that are not insignificant, but that's not important at this point.)

imrs.php



And look at that support for Sanders! Massive.

The problem — which also happens to be the ongoing, perpetual problem for candidates who bank on the youth vote — is that older voters usually over-perform.

imrs.php



And look at those margins for Hillary Clinton.

We’ve noted repeatedly that young people simply don’t turn out to vote as much as older voters. That overlaps a bit with Sanders’s “working class” comment; income, education level and age are all overlapping groups which tend to vote less frequently. Age alone:

imrs.php



Hillary Clinton won Nevada in large part because of her overwhelming support from black voters. She won Iowa because older voters turned out more than they did in 2008 and because younger voters turned out less. What’s more, there’s not much evidence that Sanders’s younger voters aremore motivated to turn out for him than are Clinton’s older ones.

This is why campaigns that need younger voters in order to win often don’t. Younger voters — who move more often, work weirder hours and aren’t in the habit of voting — simply don’t vote as much. Which, Bernie Sanders said, is why Hillary Clinton beat him on Saturday.
Young voters are failing Bernie Sanders, just as they’ve failed so many before


How sad :sadcam:

Is it over for Bernie?
THERE are actually many more old people today then their was a few years back. and there are also more young people yoday than their was a few years back. So whoever shows up first will win. obviously older people are going to show up since half of them are retired. the other half feel vested in politics. while younger folks dont feel vested in the system just yet. some do and most others dont. when you're young unless you are heavy into politics the last thing you're thinking about is voting or who candidate A B or C is. you're thinking about yourself.
 

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It is this type of shyt that infuriates people. I did all of the same things in school, none of that means that it was the way things should be. People keep using their own personal stories as excuses for the status quo. How the fukk can you admit that the economy is rigged and then get upset at someone who wants to change it? The question has never been about the possibility of success, but about what type of sacrifice it takes and the odds of doing it and how far we are willing to let people fall. I have had this discussion with you a bunch of times and you keep repeating this stuff. All due respect, but I am going to go out on a limb and assume that I make more money than 95% of the people posting on this board because I make more money than 95% of people in America (and no I'm not rich, I owe 100k in debt like every other grad student).

Did you ever stop to think about why this group of people--the me's of the world--regardless of how much money we make still lean to the left? Do you ever stop and think that getting to where we are takes that type of sacrifice? Do you think social workers and all these other people in majors of that sort do not know anything about sacrifice? The argument he is making is one about how to navigate an unfair society, not about how to make it more just. You guys keep relying on this "that's how it is bullshyt" when it was people on the left that even got you to this point where his story is possible. This is why on every type of examination conservatives come out as rigged people. You cannot convince someone who does not want to be convinced.
So start your own business like the guy in the OP then and...

If you can make one heap of all your winnings. And risk it on one turn of pitch-and -toss, And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And we'll read YOUR op-ed :ufdup:

I don't know what you're even saying here, to be honest.

I consider myself left...probably more left than those who are anti-free speech...but the economy doesn't owe you shyt bro. You make it sound like you're supposed to be insulated from failure.
 

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It is this type of shyt that infuriates people. I did all of the same things in school, none of that means that it was the way things should be. People keep using their own personal stories as excuses for the status quo. How the fukk can you admit that the economy is rigged and then get upset at someone who wants to change it? The question has never been about the possibility of success, but about what type of sacrifice it takes and the odds of doing it and how far we are willing to let people fall. I have had this discussion with you a bunch of times and you keep repeating this stuff. All due respect, but I am going to go out on a limb and assume that I make more money than 95% of the people posting on this board because I make more money than 95% of people in America (and no I'm not rich, I owe 100k in debt like every other grad student).

Did you ever stop to think about why this group of people--the me's of the world--regardless of how much money we make still lean to the left? Do you ever stop and think that getting to where we are takes that type of sacrifice? Do you think social workers and all these other people in majors of that sort do not know anything about sacrifice? The argument he is making is one about how to navigate an unfair society, not about how to make it more just. You guys keep relying on this "that's how it is bullshyt" when it was people on the left that even got you to this point where his story is possible. This is why on every type of examination conservatives come out as rigged people. You cannot convince someone who does not want to be convinced.

I'm not upset with Bernie wanting to fix things. I'm on board with either Bern or Trump because they are both addressing issues that I think are important for myself and for the betterment of the country. I think Hillary and the GOP are establishment frauds that give the illusion of change but are just recycling the same rubbish mentality that put us where we are today.

I did all of the same things in school, none of that means that it was the way things should be.

I think most people agree with you that "its not the way things should be". However, you seem to have overcome the challenge as you said you're making serious money now. So what you're saying is that his method/mentality of hard work/risk taking worked but you'd just prefer it was an easier road to get there for yourself and for the general public.

The economy has been rigged for thousands of years. Those at the top always eat good and everyone else fights for the remains. Nothings changed. We don't live in a utopia. Wishing we did does not make it so. To me, that means in the real world, unless you're already at the top, you have to do anything and everything to get ahead. Sacrifice, if you will. Yes, people from social programs sacrifice a lot. Sacrifice is only one part of the equation though. Picking a career that has real opportunity for advancement or a real chance to make six figures is also important. The networks and connections you make throughout college and life are important. Etc etc. Theres more than just sacrifice that goes into being successful.

The argument he is making is one about how to navigate an unfair society, not about how to make it more just. You guys keep relying on this "that's how it is bullshyt

Philosophizing about how life can be better doesn't put food on my table. It doesn't pay my bills. Playing the current system and taking advantage of it when I can is how I can get ahead. I'm not a powerful person nor am I a rich person. That means I don't dictate the terms nor have the leverage to change the conditions of the real world. You're relying on hopes and dreams to change things which is naive because it neglects reality. Those with the power and money dictate the terms and learning more from the OP about how to navigate in this society will only help you gain an advantage over your competition. All the little advantages that you can find add up over time and the probability of you being a millionaire increase along with it.


How the fukk can you admit that the economy is rigged and then get upset at someone who wants to change it?

Thats an easy one. Everyone knows the economy is rigged so we're all on the same playing field. Unless you're a 1%er, the economy has always been rigged for you. People get upset because politicians try to fix the problems by taxing the very same people those policies are hurting. Both the Dems and Repubs have obliterated the middle class. Thats how they both thought to fix a rigged economy. When you want to fix a rigged system AND you tax those that are actually at fault (aka Bernie's plans) then it actually makes sense! I guess its a crazy idea to have fiscal responsibility and fund your programs the right way. Its the same reasoning for supporting true universal HC versus the bullshyt that the Dem's forced down our throats with ACA. UHC = lower HC costs across the board. ACA = higher HC costs across the board but at least we have less people without insurance? The only people that won from ACA were the insurance companies and the ultra poor. The middle class lost big. It was a shytty program that was supposed to save us from a rigged system. It clearly hasn't and the system remains rigged.
 

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Bernie supporters aren't willing to work for what they want, all they want is handouts. Bunch of entitled brats who got one too many gold stars in elementary school and now they think they shouldn't have to work for what they have like the rest of us. Get a job. Star a business for G-ds sake! There's a distinctly un-American vibe being put off here and it makes me sick to my stomach.
 
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