Dear Bernie Sanders, Sorry I'm The Problem With America

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go to the sba and find out about financing, and creating a business.

come up with business plans and ideas


there's a lot of programs out there geared towards minorities and helping them get set up.

have to have no ambition to pass up these opportunities


you want the foreign, bevy of girls to sleep with every week, vacations and the lofts you gotta step up

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Ever since Citizens United, the Supreme Court's 2010 decision allowing unlimited corporate and union spending on political issues, Americans have been debating whether, as Mitt Romney said, "Corporations are people, my friend." Occupy Wall Street protestors decried the idea, late night comedians mocked it, and reform groups proposed amending the Constitution to eliminate it. Today, however, the Supreme Court endorsed corporate personhood -- holding that business firms have rights to religious freedom under federal law. Not only do corporations have rights, their rights are stronger than yours.

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This is why I setup my S-Corp to get my feet wet in da game.
 

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I think most people agree with you that "its not the way things should be". However, you seem to have overcome the challenge as you said you're making serious money now. So what you're saying is that his method/mentality of hard work/risk taking worked but you'd just prefer it was an easier road to get there for yourself and for the general public.

The economy has been rigged for thousands of years. Those at the top always eat good and everyone else fights for the remains. Nothings changed. We don't live in a utopia. Wishing we did does not make it so. To me, that means in the real world, unless you're already at the top, you have to do anything and everything to get ahead. Sacrifice, if you will. Yes, people from social programs sacrifice a lot. Sacrifice is only one part of the equation though. Picking a career that has real opportunity for advancement or a real chance to make six figures is also important. The networks and connections you make throughout college and life are important. Etc etc. Theres more than just sacrifice that goes into being successful.

Philosophizing about how life can be better doesn't put food on my table. It doesn't pay my bills. Playing the current system and taking advantage of it when I can is how I can get ahead. I'm not a powerful person nor am I a rich person. That means I don't dictate the terms nor have the leverage to change the conditions of the real world. You're relying on hopes and dreams to change things which is naive because it neglects reality. Those with the power and money dictate the terms and learning more from the OP about how to navigate in this society will only help you gain an advantage over your competition. All the little advantages that you can find add up over time and the probability of you being a millionaire increase along with it.

One thing you're right about is that the economy has been rigged for thousands of years. That's the nature of class society :heh:. You're also right that "philosophizing about how life can be better" doesn't take care of everyday needs and concerns.

Your post, oddly enough, has rhetoric that is both disempowering and empowering. Let's begin with the former: "I'm not a powerful person nor am I a rich person. That means I don't dictate the terms nor have the leverage to change the conditions of the real world. You're relying on hopes and dreams to change things which is naive because it neglects reality. Those with the power and money dictate the terms"

Where does that money and power of the elite come from? It comes from class relations under capitalism. It comes from a small minority owning the wealth-producing apparatuses of society that the working class (the vast majority) expends their labor with to produce the wealth (which is produced and distributed undemocratically). It comes from the labor of the working class. That labor is the leverage! Exploitation occurs at the point of production; that is the source of profit. Yet, when we leftists point this out, you and those who agree with you simply dismiss the argument. When we argue in favor of the Fight for $15, for example, you dismiss it out-of-pocket. But these labor struggles ARE about those everyday concerns like putting food on the table, keeping the lights on, etc. Yet you still disregard that.

Workers organizing collectively to pursue their common material interests isn't "hopes and dreams." That's real power, and exercised in a militant way, has the potential to shut down states, countries, and economies, and overturn the relations of production that lead to the misery workers experience.

The rigging of the game comes from property (not personal property, private property) relations under capitalism. Personally I don't even see how anti-socialists reject the exploitation of labor as the foundation of capitalist economy (and class systems in general). I mean, it's one thing if your/their argument was more so a logistical one that revolved around how difficult it is to organize a class as large as the working class (it's the largest class in history). But if people can organize by the tens of millions along fictional lines drawn on a map to sign up (or be called up) and go abroad to kill people over abstractions and propaganda, I'd venture to say there is nothing naturally preventing people from organizing en masse to gain their material security and not continue to get finessed by the propaganda of elites who live in security and plenty at their expense.

So, all workers have leverage in that way. But this country in particular (and your post embodies this point) encourages the masses to think of themselves as atomized. If 200+ million people in the U.S. are getting scraped by a few million people (at most), something systemic might be going on :heh:. The ruling class dictates the terms because the working class has allowed that to occur to this point.

That being said, yes, of course, people should think very carefully about their choices and try to do what is best to secure themselves. Even if everyone did that and was forever on-point, we would still observe massive inequality and misery. That's how capitalism is structured. The masses of people cannot "entrepreneur" their way out of this. So workers should be aware of their collective power, but individuals should also be willing to give entrepreneurship a shot if the chance presents itself.

Bernie supporters aren't willing to work for what they want, all they want is handouts. Bunch of entitled brats who got one too many gold stars in elementary school and now they think they shouldn't have to work for what they have like the rest of us. Get a job. Star a business for G-ds sake! There's a distinctly un-American vibe being put off here and it makes me sick to my stomach.

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"distinctly un-American" coming from the guy who wants to repeal the 2nd Amendment :heh:
 

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Bernie supporters aren't willing to work for what they want, all they want is handouts. Bunch of entitled brats who got one too many gold stars in elementary school and now they think they shouldn't have to work for what they have like the rest of us. Get a job. Star a business for G-ds sake! There's a distinctly un-American vibe being put off here and it makes me sick to my stomach.
Is this a troll post?

OP article is typical Bootstraps nonsense. fukk outta here.
 

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go to the sba and find out about financing, and creating a business.

come up with business plans and ideas


there's a lot of programs out there geared towards minorities and helping them get set up.

have to have no ambition to pass up these opportunities


you want the foreign, bevy of girls to sleep with every week, vacations and the lofts you gotta step up

:yeshrug:
What do you do for a living?
 

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Bernie supporters aren't willing to work for what they want, all they want is handouts. Bunch of entitled brats who got one too many gold stars in elementary school and now they think they shouldn't have to work for what they have like the rest of us. Get a job. Star a business for G-ds sake! There's a distinctly un-American vibe being put off here and it makes me sick to my stomach.
spot on
 

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One of my ex-coworkers (she quit our job late December with no other job lined up and she still doesn't have a job) is hardcore Bernie fan. I love trolling her and her friends on FB saying #Hillary4Prez :blessed:. She popped up today and she had the Bernie pin on her purse, bumper sticker on her car and she attended some event for him that featured bands raising money the other night. :mjlol: I told her months ago that he wouldn't win, but it took a while before I realized she was like your prototypical Bernie stan.
 

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I think a lot of folks on the Bern train are more concerned with fulfilling Marxist fantasies than actually getting things done.

I agree 100% that workers are generally at a disadvantage vs their places of employment.... but the forces driving that are modern and different from all the ancient Marxist lenses they try and force everything through. For example tearing the roof of of campaign finance would do way more to empower workers than stupid shyt like unions. @JahFocus CS is obsessed with this concept of abolishing private property but most of the people "controlling" employment have no ownership stakes in the companies they run. If this "worker's revolution" is going to happen, and I think it SHOULD, the people driving it NEED to leave the 19th century and enter the 21st. The world has changed a lot since Marx' day.... including the relationships between and general concepts of labor, property and capital. Why would a worker's revolution play out the same way? It's not realistic. It's the leftish equivalent of those Civil War reenactments.
 

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But the wonderful thing about America is that if you are willing to make the right sacrifices, you can achieve whatever you want. Unfortunately, we’ve come to believe that achievement should be easy. Changing that attitude is the first step towards making yourself more successful.
Absolutely not true for most people in America.
 
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