"Death to the Pessimistic State of Mind" - Nas Voice: NYK '23 Pre-Season Thread
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Trade? He's a solid piece. Everyone can't be a superstar.
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that pick is getting traded. i'd be shocked if it actually gets used
So what?Hooping??? He's been shooting under 40% for the last month.
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Agreed. But you’ll be paying him like one very soon, so would you rather pay him superstar money to not be a superstar or trade him for one?
I’m not saying give him away, but if a big time player becomes available, RJ can’t be the dealbreaker either.
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this speaks to his lack of a true in between game. most players cant outmuscle and get to the rim and even if they had the athleticism it aint easy to score at the rim every time even with explosiveness. he needs to put up thousands of 15-18 foot jumpers and thousands of floaters over the summer. his skill level has to increase in order to be a reliable efficient 20 night in and night out. the thing thats on his side is that he's 21.....
the threat of him actually being able to hit the floater or mid range jumper will allow him more ways to use his physicality and get angles to the rim...cause honestly, he's pretty adept at using angles ....its just his touch after he muscles by his man leaves a lot to be desired.
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RJ has 2 more leaps in him imo. When he tightens his handle and when he learns to hit free throws he’s a bonafide 26 ppg scorer.
If your definition of hooping is inconsistent shooting, underwhelming defense, a
arsenal and array of moves, then I agree with you. 
They should wait it out for another year before they decide to commit a deal to him.
tremonthustler1
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Oh, I know.
I was kind enough not to make any of several "strides" jokes I came up with on the spot. Poor Tadpole. He is what he is. Dude's scoring jumped all them points post-all star break, and the %s somehow got even worse. Them struggle drives and bricks be hilarious to watch though.
He spent his first two seasons sitting in the corner, used as a jump shooter. The second he took the reigns of the offense he showed a side of his game we have yet to see at this level from him. Sorry if I personally feel like this kid is gonna be just fine. He SHOULD have been figuring this shyt out at the end of his rookie year… but we had to develop Randle so…If your definition of hooping is inconsistent shooting, underwhelming defense, a
They should wait it out for another year before they decide to commit a deal to him.
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I look at RJ's progression, well-documented work ethic, and intangibles and I'm thinking he'll continue to grow. When I think about the parts of his game that can improve, I think there's plenty of room to grow into an elite ball player. He's 21 years old averaging 20, 6, and 3 on 41% from the field and 35% from three on the year. That's against good defenses, bad defenses, and everything in between.
His three-point shooting and free shooting are very likely to continue to progress. He's got a ton of room to improve at the rim and he's still learning the reads as he slashes. I suspect that he'll also look to work on the pull-up from midrange or add a floater this offseason because Drew Hanlen is always plotting out how to add to RJ's bag with offseason workouts. None of this stuff requires more wiggle or any major changes to his game.
That's not to mention how the team around him could change to positively effect his play. He's spent this entire season without a consistent playmaking lead ball handler. He plays most of his minutes with Burks at PG and Fournier at SG. Randle's his top option to create easy looks. Now add in that his game improves with pace and that the Knicks have the second-worst pace in the entire league.
I'm not saying he's a sure star, but there are a lot of ways that RJ Barrett can live up to a big contract...especially after the next tv deal and CBA which a lot of heads are expecting to cause another significant increase in what the players are making just in general.
If you can trade him for a bonafide superstar, it's gotta be on the table, but even that comes down to which superstar it is and what else the other team is asking for.
His three-point shooting and free shooting are very likely to continue to progress. He's got a ton of room to improve at the rim and he's still learning the reads as he slashes. I suspect that he'll also look to work on the pull-up from midrange or add a floater this offseason because Drew Hanlen is always plotting out how to add to RJ's bag with offseason workouts. None of this stuff requires more wiggle or any major changes to his game.
That's not to mention how the team around him could change to positively effect his play. He's spent this entire season without a consistent playmaking lead ball handler. He plays most of his minutes with Burks at PG and Fournier at SG. Randle's his top option to create easy looks. Now add in that his game improves with pace and that the Knicks have the second-worst pace in the entire league.
I'm not saying he's a sure star, but there are a lot of ways that RJ Barrett can live up to a big contract...especially after the next tv deal and CBA which a lot of heads are expecting to cause another significant increase in what the players are making just in general.
If you can trade him for a bonafide superstar, it's gotta be on the table, but even that comes down to which superstar it is and what else the other team is asking for.
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