Debate: Suicide By Cop is a BS term

[USSInsiders]

Yes. This is what I consider suicide.

Ok, so make another definition of suicide

 

[Will Ross]

Them white boys from Columbine wanted to go out that way but the cops would not kill them
most people that do mass shootings want to go out by be killed by the cops.

 

[Vilified not verified]

Thats different.

Trains operate in a singular dimension: Forward or backwards. And often its technically impossible for a human to stop the immediacy of such an interaction.

Cops, even when "reacting" in self-defense, CHOOSE to shoot.

if i wanted to kill myself i could either swallow a bunch of dangerous substances or I could charge at a bunch of armed men with a machete in the hope that they shoot me, they would both be attempts by me to end my life, which is suicide.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

if i wanted to kill myself i could either swallow a bunch of dangerous substances or I could charge at a bunch of armed men with a machete in the hope that they shoot me, they would both be attempts by me to end my life, which is suicide.

I feel suicide is limited to that which is self-inflicted.

 

[Vilified not verified]

I feel suicide is limited to that which is self-inflicted.

whats the difference between knowing that a train will eventually crush you if you lay down on active tracks and knowing that police are authorized to eliminate you if you are a threat and knowing their track record for dealing with these situations whether they have a choice or not.

 

[Still Benefited]

I fail to see the problem here.

Expanding the definition by saying "suicide by cop" means that cops lack some sort of role in the situation by trying to soften that interaction

Nah bruh that's the point of the whole "by cop" part to let it be known the cops had some sort of role in it....I think you just bein too technical on this one...Theres times when the term is accurate and times when its not,where cops see somebody wants to die and kills them because "technically" they can and they know it.....even though the threat is far enough away its not really a threat,or lesser force could be used.

 

[unit321]

No, suicide by cop does not exist. What does exist are certain situations where cops are authorized to kill. Suicide has nothing to do with it.

The bullshyt ideas americans come up with to sound righteous, I swear. Try to say suicide by cop around here, everybody would look at you like The cop's killing people, he just so happens to get away with it in our system.

Well, if you've never been in a situation, then what experience are you drawing from?
There are certain people out there who know that suicide isn't the answer but they want to end the pain. They can't go through the act of killing themselves, shooting themselves, jumping off a bridge, OD'ing on drugs, drive off a cliff, etc. But, they know if they threaten a cop with deadly force, they'll get killed. What to do? Charge a police officer while pointing a gun at him. The back story on these people is they have no real reason to threaten a cop with a gun.

 

[HoloGraphic]

by this notion, being black talking to cops is suicidal



The measure that ended someone's life determine's suicide.

Just because cops are likely to shoot back doesn't make it suicide

Did you just prove my point?
Doing something that may get me killed is suicidal, sometimes these attempts don't work.

The intention of suicide belongs to the person. If I approached a police officer (or anyone capable of using lethal force) with the intent of triggering an event in which they use lethal force against me, with the intention of having them kill me, then I have successfully committed suicide. Or "assisted" suicide.

This is all semantics and political language tho. However I hold that whomever has the intent of killing oneself and accomplishes that notion by hook, crook or snake venom has committed suicide.

 

[Audemar]

Nah bruh that's the point of the whole "by cop" part to let it be known the cops had some sort of role in it....I think you just bein too technical on this one...Theres times when the term is accurate and times when its not,where cops see somebody wants to die and kills them because "technically" they can and they know it.....even though the threat is far enough away its not really a threat,or lesser force could be used.

A typical trait of smart dumb nikkas.

 

[Jesus]

Unless it was explicitly stated or the person had history of suicidal actions it or mental problems it cannot be considered suicidal.