Debate: Suicide By Cop is a BS term

Is "Suicide by cop" a real thing?

  • Yes, it exists

    Votes: 4 26.7%
  • Yes it exists but is overused

    Votes: 5 33.3%
  • No, suicide by cop does not exist

    Votes: 6 40.0%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 0 0.0%

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Audemar

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Do you know what suicide is or are you buying into the propaganda?

Whats stopping you from calling when the cops shoot someone an attempted suicide by cop?
The word suicide is used because in a suicide by cop scenario, the individual makes it clear, typically in some written manifesto, that his/her intention is to commit suicide because s/he doesn't have the means or courage to do so otherwise; some also want to die with the fact that they'll receive attention after death, as crazy as that is. You seem to believe that a suicide can only occur when someone is isolated in a room and cuts, shoots, hangs him/herself, etc., which isn't the case. By your claims, there's no such thing as say suicide by train either.
 

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The word suicide is used because in a suicide by cop scenario, the individual makes it clear, typically in some written manifesto, that his/her intention is to commit suicide because s/he doesn't have the means or courage to do so otherwise; some also want to die with the fact that they'll receive attention after death, as crazy as that is. You seem to believe that a suicide can only occur when someone is isolated in a room and cuts, shoots, hangs him/herself, etc., which isn't the case. By your claims, there's no such thing as say suicide by train either.

Yes. This is what I consider suicide.
 

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Do you know what suicide is or are you buying into the propaganda?

Whats stopping you from calling when the cops shoot someone an attempted suicide by cop?

I know what suicide is and I'm also aware that a lot of them are unsuccessful. If someone would deliberately put themselves in a lethal situation with the intention of dying, they are suicidal. If they are successful, they have committed suicide. I'm not too into the propaganda when it comes to any of these shootings, so I really don't know how often this term is used. The only time I would call a death by police situation an attempted suicide is if evidence came out that the 'victim' planned it that way.
 

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Yes. This is what I consider suicide.
Then there's obviously no point in discussing this further. There is a term suicide by cop, just like how you have people who commit suicides by train, you just don't want to accept it for whatever reason.
 

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its a real thing, for sure. Most people lack the conviction necessary to actually kill themselves. However, Officers should be trained to handle the situation differently if possible.. I read about this happening in Ferguson, the guy who was killed by police only had a knife but kept getting closer to the officers and literally told them to "shoot him". I feel like situations like that could be handled differently, yes, he was getting closer to the officers while holding a blade, but from what I read it didn't seem like he was trying to actually attack the officers.
 

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If you pull out a weapon and point it at a squad of armed police you have a death wish! So in a situation like that, suicide by cop is definately real unless you was in an altered mental state which made you think you were invunerable to bullets.
 

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it's real. cops are trained to shoot to kill, not to stop or disable. so u have to be kinda suicidal to go at a cop with a baseball bat or some shyt, u know those pigs are trigger happy as it is, that's just giving them more reason to shoot
 

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it's real. cops are trained to shoot to kill, not to stop or disable. so u have to be kinda suicidal to go at a cop with a baseball bat or some shyt, u know those pigs are trigger happy as it is, that's just giving them more reason to shoot
suicidal? Sure.

The death however is not a suicide. a
 

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Cops shooting someone who wants to be shot is not a suicide.
At least provide a logical explanation as to why that is true. You're carefully wording the scenario to better suit your claim, which doesn't make suicide by cop non-existent. You're implying that the cops are choosing to shoot similar to how you choose to post on this website; not the same as no one incites you to post here so that is a freewill choice, whereas cops are incited and authorized to take action. The fixed belief that you have that a person has to commit suicide by him/herself is preventing you from seeing the big picture. Suicides by cop, suicides by train are not the same as suicides committed in an isolated setting on the basis of method used, but they're still both forms of suicide.
 

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At least provide a logical explanation as to why that is true. You're carefully wording the scenario to better suit your claim, which doesn't make suicide by cop non-existent. You're implying that the cops are choosing to shoot similar to how you choose to post on this website; not the same as no one incites you to post here so that is a freewill choice, whereas cops are incited and authorized to take action. The fixed belief that you have that a person has to commit suicide by him/herself is preventing you from seeing the big picture. Suicides by cop, suicides by train are not the same as suicides committed in an isolated setting on the basis of method used, but they're still both forms of suicide.

I fail to see the problem here.

Expanding the definition by saying "suicide by cop" means that cops lack some sort of role in the situation by trying to soften that interaction
 
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