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[WuDatWuDat]

Why you not listening to that new Joe Budden though?

 

[Formerly known as...]

Never heard a Young thug song.

 

[Richard Wright]

the new lil Wayne

 

[Deutsche Bank]

Maybe you digest it differently but Good Music is Good Music at the end of the day. It might not be your cup of tea or even mine's on the regular but Thugga do his thing.


If you understand the game then you understand the struggle. If society consumed Entertainment the way we used to and Social Media Marketing wasn't so relevant then you'd probably be a fan as well. You wouldn't have the space to deny him.

Nah, when you get older you tend to observe things in a broader context.

A helpful exercise would be to imagine every denigrating thing Young Thug spits about blacks as really being about Jews. Then imagining this taking place in Europe during the Holocaust. And then imagining Young Thug as being a Jew himself.

Or, realizing that Schedule 1 & 2 narcotics and firearms are not largely produced, refined or imported by American minorities. But their distribution, sale, and use are largely handled by American minorities for the express purpose of subduing said minorities. Hip hop is just the marketing aspect of this, in the same way pop music advertises junk food, cosmetics and fashion to adolescents.

To brand these nikkas as artists with undeniable talent is like saying Ronald McDonald is a culinary genius. That's the level of delusion one is forced to operate under as a black hip hop fan in 2015. These dudes are just spokespersons/mascots for the prison industrial complex/uttermost consumer base of America, at a time when that consumer base is engaging in civil disobedience to demand basic human rights from their overlords.

Of course, this is the double-edged sword of capitalism. It's a monster that scares the populace into rapid innovation and improvement, but it feeds on an underclass. But I can tolerate hip hop because I prefer a cannibalistic underclass to the nationwide majority underclass borne of socialism.

 

[KOOL-AID]

thugger jackson *plays All Over*

 

[10:31]

Apparently Jeff (who's 6'4) started at QB for Washigton High's varsity team in ATL his freshman year



Anybody who follows Football knows how smart you have to be to lead/play that position...

I'm surprised son didn't hoop with that kind of height

 

[Blessings]

Might not be the best rapper...but as far as "replay-value" he's #1

 

[Lord Beasley]

In reference to future, didn't brehs say that About him b4?

Then he went on the tear that led to DS2

#1000

 

[Matt504]

In reference to future, didn't brehs say that About him b4?

Then he went on the tear that led to DS2

#1000

He has his infidelity to Ciara to thank for that "tear"

 

[MrPentatonic]

this dude is a bi, and thats his prerogative.....but anyone cosigning his music and modeling themselves after him or weezy is highly suspect, period.

I remember saying something similar to this... One day you gonna give one track a chance to see what these suspect nikkas going mad about....You gonna hear the melodic flows on those glorious London on the track piano riffs. Suddenly. The flow changes hit you like a thief in the night. Your head gonna nod for a little bit but you gonna stop yourself and turn it off. When you catch yourself nodding to it or replaying an unlocked melody in your head not knowing where it came from... its too late. its like a virus.

That's how its gonna go

 

[10:31]

The best pop music of 2015: Young Thug, Ellie Goulding and Kelela shine

 

[N!ggaPlease]

 

[RTF]

THis is why I can't agree with anybody who says this dude is a terrible rapper.

I mean I'm a huge hip-hop head and have appreciation for all sorts of music...but only Young Thug leaves me with that feeling after listening to his tracks of "how is he doing this?"

This is it. It's not done by education or... let's say specific intellectual focus. Like you know when Jay, Eminem, Lupe or Pusha are really flowing, you know it's because they've got the rhymes structure built so specifically to create this effect. Someone like Eminem's flow at its best is so meticulously written and structured. Young Thug is catching better flows and melodies and he's not.. intellectually trying to do so if that makes sense. What Thug does, doesn't make sense. It's like he goes into the booth channelling some African Juju shyt or the HolY Ghost of musical feeling and shyt. He'll find a pocket in a beat, then switch it up for something that just feels better at that point but it has no logical reason to do so.


The big drawback is that the content only has broad themes with songs often without specific meaning. I'm a big fan of dude and I only understand maybe... 80%... 90% of what he's saying. So his music has to be felt and enjoyed rather than understood. I've grown up listening to Dancehall, Afrobeats & Reggae. I'm used to feeling and enjoying music I barely understand. Big reason why Lifestyle is his biggest record, it has a strong theme. And also his music is complex but not in terms of "lyricism" or the way we consider complex hip hop music. Walk with me.

He uses a lot of lingo - that I simply don't understand (Wu did this a lot too). So, let's take what is to me.. one of the best songs of the year and one of the best songs from Thugga. Draw Down



For one.. the title.. Draw Down doesn't mean anything to me. It took me a while to figure he was saying "i'm a pull a draw down on all of them"... which in itself is an abstract way of saying i'm going to point a loaded gun at you.

Then.. the hook alone.. is like 14-16 bars of raps. THE HOOK IS 14 BARS MINIMUM. It's split into I guess 3 sections, of about 5 bars. The first is the most catchy, the second is a chant (i'm a pull a draw down on all them), the 3rd is hypnotic rhymes that works brilliantly with the earlier part. Oh and he starts the hook as soon as the song drops. He starts singing in the background halfway through the hook and the beat changes a bit too. The first time hearing this you literally have no time to understand what's going on. The first verse hasn't started, in 1 hook he's given us 3 flows/melodies and said "nikka you might be swept by my sword" LOL. That's some poetic shyt to say in a hook. AGain, it's like 14 bars but it doesn't feel like it.

Verse 1:
The beat settles down again and he's onto the 4th flow of the song.. this time he's shouting and super clear to understand. After the shouting, the beat actually ramps up again (like the drop at the start) he switches seamlessly into the singing, which contains two melodies working together. So he's shouting when it's smooth, then singing when it's a harder beat. When the beat is open he attacks it with the shouting flow, when it fights back with the 808's and bass.. he rides it smoothly with the singing flow. That must be on purpose right?

And then from there.... he's pretty much rapping in another flow that's unlike the previous 2... but... feels more like free expression rather than a specific flow. No cadence or flow after that sticks fro more than a rhyming couplet or at a push 3. So it's like... shouting... singing.... off the cuff stuff towards the end.

Like... how do you plan to write that? Do you even plan it? If you don't plan it, how can a mind be so sick to come up with that? I don't know.. so.. despite being explicit and sexually grotesque it ends up sounding like Thugger has unlocked some kinda spiritual rapping flows to stick this all together seamlessly and effortlessly. It doesn't sound like he's trying but when you think about it... it's fukking nuts. The beat and Thug switch gears throughout the song. Seamless.

Then we back to that 14-16 bar hook. LOL.


This is a trap rapper called Young Thug, making a song loosely about pulling guns on people. It's complex but people will dead ass look you in the face and dismiss it's creativity and originality.
I've spent longer than planned on this lol. Might start a thread on the greatness and complexity of this song.

 

[Starski]

This is it. It's not done by education or... let's say specific intellectual focus. Like you know when Jay, Eminem, Lupe or Pusha are really flowing, you know it's because they've got the rhymes structure built so specifically to create this effect. Someone like Eminem's flow at its best is so meticulously written and structured. Young Thug is catching better flows and melodies and he's not.. intellectually trying to do so if that makes sense. What Thug does, doesn't make sense. It's like he goes into the booth channelling some African Juju shyt or the HolY Ghost of musical feeling and shyt. He'll find a pocket in a beat, then switch it up for something that just feels better at that point but it has no logical reason to do so.


The big drawback is that the content only has broad themes with songs often without specific meaning. I'm a big fan of dude and I only understand maybe... 80%... 90% of what he's saying. So his music has to be felt and enjoyed rather than understood. I've grown up listening to Dancehall, Afrobeats & Reggae. I'm used to feeling and enjoying music I barely understand. Big reason why Lifestyle is his biggest record, it has a strong theme. And also his music is complex but not in terms of "lyricism" or the way we consider complex hip hop music. Walk with me.

He uses a lot of lingo - that I simply don't understand (Wu did this a lot too). So, let's take what is to me.. one of the best songs of the year and one of the best songs from Thugga. Draw Down



For one.. the title.. Draw Down doesn't mean anything to me. It took me a while to figure he was saying "i'm a pull a draw down on all of them"... which in itself is an abstract way of saying i'm going to point a loaded gun at you.

Then.. the hook alone.. is like 14-16 bars of raps. THE HOOK IS 14 BARS MINIMUM. It's split into I guess 3 sections, of about 5 bars. The first is the most catchy, the second is a chant (i'm a pull a draw down on all them), the 3rd is hypnotic rhymes that works brilliantly with the earlier part. Oh and he starts the hook as soon as the song drops. He starts singing in the background halfway through the hook and the beat changes a bit too. The first time hearing this you literally have no time to understand what's going on. The first verse hasn't started, in 1 hook he's given us 3 flows/melodies and said "nikka you might be swept by my sword" LOL. That's some poetic shyt to say in a hook. AGain, it's like 14 bars but it doesn't feel like it.

Verse 1:
The beat settles down again and he's onto the 4th flow of the song.. this time he's shouting and super clear to understand. After the shouting, the beat actually ramps up again (like the drop at the start) he switches seamlessly into the singing, which contains two melodies working together. So he's shouting when it's smooth, then singing when it's a harder beat. When the beat is open he attacks it with the shouting flow, when it fights back with the 808's and bass.. he rides it smoothly with the singing flow. That must be on purpose right?

And then from there.... he's pretty much rapping in another flow that's unlike the previous 2... but... feels more like free expression rather than a specific flow. No cadence or flow after that sticks fro more than a rhyming couplet or at a push 3. So it's like... shouting... singing.... off the cuff stuff towards the end.

Like... how do you plan to write that? Do you even plan it? If you don't plan it, how can a mind be so sick to come up with that? I don't know.. so.. despite being explicit and sexually grotesque it ends up sounding like Thugger has unlocked some kinda spiritual rapping flows to stick this all together seamlessly and effortlessly. It doesn't sound like he's trying but when you think about it... it's fukking nuts. The beat and Thug switch gears throughout the song. Seamless.

Then we back to that 14-16 bar hook. LOL.


This is a trap rapper called Young Thug, making a song loosely about pulling guns on people. It's complex but people will dead ass look you in the face and dismiss it's creativity and originality.
I've spent longer than planned on this lol. Might start a thread on the greatness and complexity of this song.

Might as well change your name to Matt505

 

[trick]

The big drawback is that the content only has broad themes with songs often without specific meaning. I'm a big fan of dude and I only understand maybe... 80%... 90% of what he's saying. So his music has to be felt and enjoyed rather than understood. I've grown up listening to Dancehall, Afrobeats & Reggae. I'm used to feeling and enjoying music I barely understand. Big reason why Lifestyle is his biggest record, it has a strong theme.
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Man, I don't even understand how that's his biggest record. That song was the reason why I didn't like him at first, shyt irritated me. That might be the worst record he's ever done. Then I heard Givenchy and my opinion of him changed

Nobody in rap understands melody like he does