Demanding a Bachelor’s Degree for a Middle-Skill Job Is Just Plain Dumb

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I found a similar article a few weeks ago that I was going to post but, it basically said the same thing. Companies actually end up hurting themselves in the long run by demanding all hires have Bachelor's Degrees because they end up requesting it for jobs that really don't necessitate that level of education. They'll find some kids with degrees who are desperate to get paid but, after they work at the job for a few months (less than a year), they feel uninspired/unchallenged and leave to find better paying jobs that are more demanding/stimulating. Serves them right imo.
 

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This is because of lazy HR administrators and companies.

They don’t want to take the time to do a proper job analysis and determine the proper job specs and then find the right people to fit that job.

Like mentioned earlier, this laziness and lack of good planning and preparation actually hurts the company because they are unable to sustain a steady work force.

They need to target ppl properly, train them and retain them.
 

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As college grads get scarce, some employers are opening their eyes to candidates they once ignored.

By Peter Coy

Ever wonder why employers demand advanced credentials for jobs that don’t seem to require them? So did Joseph Fuller, a professor of management practice at Harvard Business School. He co-led a study that found it’s “a substantive and widespread phenomenon that is making the U.S. labor market more inefficient.” To take one egregious example, two-thirds of job postings for production supervisors require a four-year college degree—even though only 1 in 6 people already doing the job has that credential.

Credentialism obviously harms job applicants. What’s less obvious is that employers suffer, too. They miss out on new hires who—the study found—work hard, cost less, are easier to hire, and are less likely to quit.

I stopped reading after the red.

Starting pay depends on experience and other factors specific to that job. Companies also try to promote from within so lets say 5 people applied for the supervisor job but none of them have a degree. They can simply require a degree which eliminates them off the rip.

And don't get it twisted. Non degree workers don't automatically work hard and are less likely to quit. That's some bullshyt assumption.

And a lot of jobs that require a degree still don't pay shyt if you don't have years of experience.
 

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Jobs still train employees. Good companies still. Pay for education. Being educated isn't bad. There are still jobs for people without degrees. Don't expect to get ahead of someone who was willing to put in more work and build out a better CV.

And whomever it was that said jobs Don't train new hires anymore is a liar.
 

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Jobs still train employees. Good companies still. Pay for education. Being educated isn't bad. There are still jobs for people without degrees. Don't expect to get ahead of someone who was willing to put in more work and build out a better CV.

And whomever it was that said jobs Don't train new hires anymore is a liar.

Most companies, even the good ones want you to have the experience already.
 

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Man I see jobs on Indeed sometimes asking for a Bachelors and 3-5 years experience talkin bout we start from 14-16 an hour.

Meanwhile I can go sweep the sidewalk for a small town and make 22 an hour as a meathead.

The meatheads managed to unionize all their trades. Most of the well off people I know are the most intellectually retarded ones that fell into hard labor unions.

So while they wanna pay someone with a Bachelors and 5 years experience 15/hr to do front end tech support Joe Schmoe with boots and a white t shirt is makin 56$ an hour to paint an electric pole plus per diem.

This bubble of overpriced education and ballooning student debt, overpriced housing costs, stagnated wages as inflation continues to climb, is bound to burst. American greed seems very short sighted. There's a lot of fukk the future cash out now mentality.

I pray for my son while these brainwashed idiots destroy the world he will inherit. :mjcry:
 

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Man I see jobs on Indeed sometimes asking for a Bachelors and 3-5 years experience talkin bout we start from 14-16 an hour.

Meanwhile I can go sweep the sidewalk for a small town and make 22 an hour as a meathead.

The meatheads managed to unionize all their trades. Most of the well off people I know are the most intellectually retarded ones that fell into hard labor unions.

So while they wanna pay someone with a Bachelors and 5 years experience 15/hr to do front end tech support Joe Schmoe with boots and a white t shirt is makin 56$ an hour to paint an electric pole plus per diem.

This bubble of overpriced education and ballooning student debt, overpriced housing costs, stagnated wages as inflation continues to climb, is bound to burst. American greed seems very short sighted. There's a lot of fukk the future cash out now mentality.

I pray for my son while these brainwashed idiots destroy the world he will inherit. :mjcry:

shyt is gonna pop....this generation being so indebted is stopping them from purchasing houses, getting married and having kids + making less money in this economy decreases spending and affects the whole system adversely which it has been doing to retail and dining businesses in recent years. It's also how a business like Amazon could come to prominence with its bone cheap pricing which attracts lower income workers but further cannibalizes our economy in the long run as it forces more companies out of business. Our economy runs on debt but when people become too indebted and can't realistically pay it off, the whole thing pops. The only difference is with mortgages people could just default on their loans but since the government mandated that people can't include their SL's in a bankruptcy, the effects will just spread to other areas of the economy (housing, consumer spending).
 

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Elon Musk states that a college degree (nor HS diploma) isn't needed:leon:. Timestamped but the entire interview is worth a listen.

 
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