I'm the only who noticed they keep laughing at him for the entire video after he spoke about being short?
Literally the rest of the video. they never stopped laughing

The goat with 3 losesTo me he is the GOAT. Since he was never caught with PEDS like Jones and even Silva at the back end of his career. Either DJ or GSP.

He has 3 Ls? The way nikkas are mouthing him in here, I assumed he murdered everyoneThe goat with 3 loses![]()


Who is above him in defending his UFC title 11 times without cheating? GSP maybe but he had so many decisions in his title run i put DJ just above.The goat with 3 loses
PED’s or not Jon Jones is the best fighter to step inside a cage.
He has 11 defenses but no signature wins. He beat Henry cejudo in his 11th fight and lost to him later on when he had more experience. DJ is a good fighter but he largely benefited from a really weak division.Who is above him in defending his UFC title 11 times without cheating? GSP maybe but he had so many decisions in his title run i put DJ just above.
Breh he’s a good fighter that fought in a really shallow division. PED’s or not listen to how fighters talk about Jon Jones. Not journeymen, but the elites of the sport.He has 3 Ls? The way nikkas are mouthing him in here, I assumed he murdered everyone![]()
Not digging through tons of video.
Here is a video asking some of the same questions, with notable people talking about what they saw with him
Cliffs:
- Lightning fast
- Excellent timing
- Excellent athlete
- Questionable punching technique by today's standards
- Devastating kick power
The short version, he had ALL the tools, but didn't focus on competetive fighting. Again, he did this 50 years ago, in what could be called a primitive fight era, and today's era built off what he did. Maybe if fighting made you a famous millionaire then like it can today, he would have and we would have a better comparison. I challenge you to find people that saw him in person and said he couldn't.


Jim Kelly is your source?
A random stuntman Bruce kicked on set while he was standing still
That video proves nothing. It actually validated my point. They got him kicking a heavy bag and saying how dangerous his kicks or saying how fast he was. It's all marketing and hype with nothing real to show.
I'm still waiting for proof that he could fight. People called him out for televised fights and he ducked them. The man was an actor and martial arts instructor not a fighter.



Jim Kelly is your source?Multiple time World Karate Champion, pro Tennis player
A random stuntman Bruce kicked on set while he was standing stillThat "random stuntman" was also a World Champion, master of several disciplines and is regarded as argubly the best of the era. Legend
That video proves nothing. It actually validated my point. They got him kicking a heavy bag and saying how dangerous his kicks or saying how fast he was. It's all marketing and hype with nothing real to show.
I'm still waiting for proof that he could fight. People called him out for televised fights and he ducked them. The man was an actor and martial arts instructor not a fighter.





There are plenty of first hand accounts of playground hoopers who were better than Jordan
If you have no pro record or data we can quantify than I don't want to hear it. We know who the great fighters are because they were tested against other great fighters. Beating up Lau Xing Mei in a street fight is useless information.
Ali vs Frazier was in the 70's so why are you acting like there was no way of knowing how good a fighter was without camera phones? Great fighters aren't in the street they fight professionally. Bruce was not a fighter.


That triple agents fav rapper is EminemThere are plenty of first hand accounts of playground hoopers who were better than Jordan
If you have no pro record or data we can quantify than I don't want to hear it. We know who the great fighters are because they were tested against other great fighters. Beating up Lau Xing Mei in a street fight is useless information.
Ali vs Frazier was in the 70's so why are you acting like there was no way of knowing how good a fighter was without camera phones? Great fighters aren't in the street they fight professionally. Bruce was not a fighter.

Did you pay attention? Kelly implied Lee embarrassed some greats, which is why he wouldn't name the names and blow their spots up. You think there is some grand conspiracy for them to keep Lee's name up?Neither fought Bruce in a real fight or have proof of him fighting.
Chuck Norris once said Bruce was just good for a non fighter and Bruce Lee stans lost their shyt so Chuck kept it PC after that when people asked how good Bruce was.
He was just some mystical Asian man who wowed them with philosophy and demonstrations. That's all.
