Democrat vying to challenge GOP Rep. Scott Taylor voted for him twice
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well if Dems or dem leaning or dem curious voters would get up off their asses and vote in the primaries
it wouldnt matter would it?
the LA Gop was all in on Luther Strange
the primary voters wanted pedo Moore
you know who was on the ballot in the end?
Pedo Moore
i made a thread last week on upcoming primaries
ftmp posters didnt give one single solitary fukk
[save a few brehs who really are serious about affecting our choices and our candidates]
im gonna bump it tommorow
i would sincerely hope that those of you who are soooo sure
the elections are rigged
and the big national parties dont listen to you
would be interested in the primaries and choosing YOUR OWN candidate
not only should you be voting for them
you should be right now campaigning for them
volunteering
phonebanking
donating your time and money
networking with friends and family
retweeting and posting on your social media
if you voluntarily give over your choice to everyone else
i dont really want to hear how much you hate the DNC [which i agree is crap] or you hate your state party or you hate the whole party
YOU are part of the problem if youre not involved.
A wall of text making presumptions on my voting habits/involvement.
At least you admit the DNC is shyt.
Broke Wave
The GOAT
You’ve never heard the DCCC or the DNC claim to be neutral? Do you even know how a primary works? Is it reasonable for a party to have a primary and assist one of the candidates over the other? How would that be an open and fair Democratic process?
That reminds me of the United Russia party.
You exposed yourself for being a mindless drone. If the DCCC or DNC never proported to be neutral, why do they deny the allegations Bernie supporters made of them during the primary? Or the allegations other progressives make?
This thread isn't about the DNC...A wall of text making presumptions on my voting habits/involvement.
New Jeruzalem Journalist
Superstar
To rig something means to give an outside advantage to one possible outcome over others where the probable outcomes would be unaffected otherwise. If I rig a pair of dice to roll snake-eyes more often than not, that doesn't mean I have to change the results when a six is rolled.
This isn't a good analogy. Unlike a dice or a dice roll all candidates aren't equal nor has the outcome of an election ever been mere chance/probability.
Nice try though.
oh i see. so if obama comes out in support of a particular candidate he's rigging the election.
New Jeruzalem Journalist
Superstar
I'm a reformed gambler, and besides the laws of basic probablities being what they are, trust me, all dice rolls aren't equal either.
In that Virginia Pilot article posted in this thread, it quotes a spox for the state dems saying they don't agree with this tactic from the DCCC, basically suggesting the state voters should be the deciding factor, not outside influences. Then the DCCC somehow makes the statement that providing financial backing and resources to their preferred candidate isn't an endorsement.
The fact that all candidates aren't equal in any election (in this specific case anyway) is kinda the point I was making.
New Jeruzalem Journalist
Superstar
oh i see. so if obama comes out in support of a particular candidate he's rigging the election.
Of course not. That's an oversimplification of why there's legitimate cause for criticism here.
no it's not. if i'm running against you neck and neck (even have a slight lead), two unknowns and obama makes a radio spot that says he endorses you (maybe because you volunteered for his campaign or something) and if they're a supporter of his then they should be for you as well.
then i need to take my ass to twitter and cry about how establishment ass obama who ain't even from our state just rigged the election for new jeruz and it's not fair. he should mind his own damn business or should have endorsed me instead, that would be ethical.
The DCCC, based on what I've read about the red to Blue program picked districts they think they can swing and spotlights candidates who already have strong backing, are democrats, and want to be a part of that program.I'm a reformed gambler, and besides the laws of basic probablities being what they are, trust me, all dice rolls aren't equal either.
In that Virginia Pilot article posted in this thread, it quotes a spox for the state dems saying they don't agree with this tactic from the DCCC, basically suggesting the state voters should be the deciding factor, not outside influences. Then the DCCC somehow makes the statement that providing financial backing and resources to their preferred candidate isn't an endorsement.
The fact that all candidates aren't equal in any election (in this specific case anyway) is kinda the point I was making.
This isn't anything new and they support a wide variety of candidates with very different platforms.
They should back winners.
They should advise those who want their help.
We should expect the candidates to have varying platforms because house districts have unique needs.
They usually don't get involved in the primary process.
I would like to see the polling and fundraising data of those who aren't being backed in the red to blue campaign.
These threads only come about because progressives on the coli get upset when Democrats don't push progressives everywhere.
If the issue was backing candidates or not remaining neutral we'd see them criticizing the progressives the d trip backed as well.
and the DCCC has a strategy that you might disagree with and that's one where they back conservadems in conservative districts, but it's not corrupt or rigging. you're just mad they didn't give your favored candidate the support. and in a primary setting their endorsement could potentially backfire if the electorate is anti-establishment.
southpawstyle
Superstar
At least the left is having this discussion. Hopefully its in good faith and not just hand wringing