Democratic Party Rebuild

[Loose]

I doubt even you understand what you just said. You're just mad for whatever reason. I genuinely don't get some of you. You spend more time attacking people who simply want things to be better. What sense does that make?

All I want is for this party to function as one that actually represents people -- not consultants, not poll-tested messaging, not corporations, not foreign interests, not whatever some strategist thinks will play well with donors. Just people. Ordinary people.

I entered the beginning of the end of my life this year; I don't have another 50 years to sit around waiting. I just want to see a Democratic Party that isn't constantly triangulating or watering down its own positions to please donors. If you're not prioritizing the people who elect you, then you're useless. It shouldn't be seen as a big ask to expect a party to serve the public. If that's makes you mad, then I don't know what to tell you.

Well said

 

[wire28]

A new challenger has entered.

Let the rebuild continue

 

[Outlaw]

I doubt even you understand what you just said. You're just mad for whatever reason. I genuinely don't get some of you. You spend more time attacking people who simply want things to be better. What sense does that make?

All I want is for this party to function as one that actually represents people -- not consultants, not poll-tested messaging, not corporations, not foreign interests, not whatever some strategist thinks will play well with donors. Just people. Ordinary people.

I entered the beginning of the end of my life this year; I don't have another 50 years to sit around waiting. I just want to see a Democratic Party that isn't constantly triangulating or watering down its own positions to please donors. If you're not prioritizing the people who elect you, then you're useless. It shouldn't be seen as a big ask to expect a party to serve the public. If that's makes you mad, then I don't know what to tell you.

The frustration with progressives isn’t policy its electoral strategy and refusal to acknowledge that Republicans are the true enemy to progress and not the Democratic Party.


Progressives on here who receive the most criticism are more prone to classify republicans as a force of immutable nature who’s evil is fixed into the pie and it’s the democrats who’s really at fault for not driving the car of progress in the hurricane conditions that Republicans set at the acceleration they’d like.

 

[Jesus H. Christ]

Supposed democrats in here stumping for Marjorie Taylor Green but were fighting tooth and nail against Mamdani

Big tent politics

Corporate Dems will give her a prime slot at next DNC convention. And the centrist HL all stars in here will be cheering her on.

 

[King Kreole]

The frustration with progressives isn’t policy its electoral strategy and refusal to acknowledge that Republicans are the true enemy to progress and not the Democratic Party.


Progressives on here who receive the most criticism are more prone to classify republicans as a force of immutable nature who’s evil is fixed into the pie and it’s the democrats who’s really at fault for not driving the car of progress in the hurricane conditions that Republicans set at the acceleration they’d like.

I think the frustration y'all have with progressives is also based in policy; more specifically, the inherent moral language and implicit critique you feel when progressives aggressively argue on behalf of their policy and worldview. There is a stark difference is how tolerable y'all think the status quo is, which is why when a progressive says universal healthcare or anti-genocide policies cannot wait, and anyone - regardless of political party affiliation - who stands in its way is an enemy of progress, you feel the heat of that shot because you have decided to put yourself in front of the gun instead of behind it because you first and foremost align yourself with the tepid "adult in the room" brand of the Democratic Party and engage in a parasocial relationship with the Democratic Party's representatives.

Seemingly, all you want is for progressives to just stop yelling at Democrats, but why would they when Democrats are also acting against the interest of the progressive worldview? You guys just want to go back to the early Obama era where there was no criticism coming from your left flank and you could easily construe yourself as the heroes of history. By denying that Republicans are an immutable force of evil in the politics of this country, you reveal the fact that you're living in an antiquated fantasy, and I think the cause of the delusion is that your prime objective is to protect the Democratic Party brand, even over the wellbeing of the people. The moral and political landscape has shifted and you're refusing to acknowledge it. You're trying to appeal to the logic and morality of Nazis (Republicans) instead of realizing the only solution is to take them out.

It is only when you accept this structural truth that you will understand the words of Dr. King:

I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season."

Shallow understanding from people of goodwill is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection."

 

[John Reena]

The frustration with progressives isn’t policy its electoral strategy and refusal to acknowledge that Republicans are the true enemy to progress and not the Democratic Party.


Progressives on here who receive the most criticism are more prone to classify republicans as a force of immutable nature who’s evil is fixed into the pie and it’s the democrats who’s really at fault for not driving the car of progress in the hurricane conditions that Republicans set at the acceleration they’d like.

Progressives are stupid. They cry about democrats not stopping Donald Trump, but voted for Cornel West instead of Kamala.

 

[John Reena]

I wonder whose mental illness is more rampant between maga and far left progressives?

 

[Loose]

Progressives are stupid. They cry about democrats not stopping Donald Trump, but voted for Cornel West instead of Kamala.

This guy is dumb, liberals are ran by goofy white women

 

[MAKAVELI25]

The frustration with progressives isn’t policy its electoral strategy and refusal to acknowledge that Republicans are the true enemy to progress and not the Democratic Party.


Progressives on here who receive the most criticism are more prone to classify republicans as a force of immutable nature who’s evil is fixed into the pie and it’s the democrats who’s really at fault for not driving the car of progress in the hurricane conditions that Republicans set at the acceleration they’d like.

This is a two way street though. Look how many centrist/moderates on here are salivating over the prospect of Mandani failing. Why would actual democrats be rooting for him to fail?

Even if he's not your brand of Democrat, why would it be a bad thing for the party if he is successful?

 

[Rice N Beans]

@John Reena literally has one go to move to compensate for the fact that he doesn't know shyt

Breh's posts might be someone asking AI to generate a negative post about anything left of center, but try to sound like The Ultimate Warrior in doing so.

 

[Hood Critic]

The progressive vs. moderate debate can really be boiled down to "winning".

Moderates policy and ideology are shaped around winning while progressives policy and ideology is shaped around inclusive majority.

Both are right to a degree but neither sees the others ideals as a winning set.

 

[John Reena]

This guy is dumb, liberals are ran by goofy white women

That truth hurt. That’s why ya went crying to the mods like some white women/Karens to get me outta here.

 

[wire28]

This is a two way street though. Look how many centrist/moderates on here are salivating over the prospect of Mandani failing. Why would actual democrats be rooting for him to fail?

Even if he's not your brand of Democrat, why would it be a bad thing for the party if he is successful?

As we’ve stated before outside of the 10 people on here that are obsessed with this shyt, random nikkas in (insert city you live) don’t know or care about Mamdani, neoliberal bluemaga shills or any of this other shyt discussed on here on the daily.

When isolated to this board however I do agree it’s a two way street.

 

[King Kreole]

The progressive vs. moderate debate can really be boiled down to "winning".

Moderates policy and ideology are shaped around winning while progressives policy and ideology is shaped around inclusive majority.

Both are right to a degree but neither sees the others ideals as a winning set.

See, I would be much more willing to accept this logic/argument from the moderate Democrats if they were on a victory heater but they keep losing pound-for-pound to right-wing fascism. Hakeem is minority leader, Schumer is minority leader, Kamala is sitting on her ass after losing the popular vote. So it's not like Moderate Democrats can even point at the scoreboard as the justification for why their politics are devoid of morality. They've been in charge and its let to Trump.

 

[Loose]

Moderates policy and ideology are shaped around winning

In last 15 years

Moderate ideology which is the party's ideology has:

Lost 2 presidential elections
Lost 3 supreme court seats
Lost super majority in the senate now permanent minority possibly
Lost crucial governor races
Shrinking map in the house

Maybe I'm tripping but the ideology doesn't appear to be shaped around winning