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That's what people usually say when they don't have a rebuttal :skip:.

Imagine trying to defend america tech oligarchs, it'll be a long battle they have singlehandedly radicalized generations
You said you wanted to live in Iran. Now you are saying China is better than US shyt. You do know China bans shyt. You can’t have Facebook in China. They will jail you or kill you.

You have no idea what you are talking about. You want to live in repressive countries. You are a joke.

Zuckerberg sucks. Elon sucks. But they are not China. You are delusional. What the fukk?
 

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Why do you think China created TikTok?

Why did algorithm forget the genocide in Gaza exists conveniently after the election?

Same reason the us tech algorithm magically pushed republicans influencers to the forefront
 

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How is China any worse than elon musk and mark Zuckerberg?


I actually agree with this. Musk and Zuckerberg using their social media empires to push the youth to the right is the same as whatever propaganda you think China is trying to use on Americans.

What is some of the specific ideologies that China is trying to push? What are the outcomes they seek? I hear this a lot but lets get into some specifics.
 

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I actually agree with this. Musk and Zuckerberg using their social media empires to push the youth to the right is the same as whatever propaganda you think China is trying to use on Americans.

What is some of the specific ideologies that China is trying to push? What are the outcomes they seek? I hear this a lot but let’s get into some specifics.
You made a claim. But now you’re asking for information. Lay out your argument.
 

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You made a claim. But now you’re asking for information. Lay out your argument.

Its a simple argument. Elon Musk/Zuckerberg influencing the youth with western conservatism through their social media platforms is bad. More violence, more domestic white terrorism, even larger withdrawals from human connections, lower birth rates, lower emphasis on higher education creating a less intelligent population right for the plundering by the wealthy. None of this is good for life in America.

I'm looking for the why with China. What are they pushing to the youth and to what benefit?
 

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I actually agree with this. Musk and Zuckerberg using their social media empires to push the youth to the right is the same as whatever propaganda you think China is trying to use on Americans.

What is some of the specific ideologies that China is trying to push? What are the outcomes they seek? I hear this a lot but lets get into some specifics.
No one is claiming Musk or Zuckerberg were “good” it was a deflection and a straw man which is why I didn’t address it. I don’t want China or right wing billionaires to own social media companies.

With that said, China’s goal with TikTok is to gather data on America, influence with soft power and peddle propaganda while sowing civil unrest in America politically at opportune times.

Musk and Zuckerberg still are Americans, you may not agree with them politically but at the end of the day they still want America to stay as the world’s hegemon. That by default makes them better for American interests
 

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No one is claiming Musk or Zuckerberg were “good” it was a deflection and a straw man which is why I didn’t address it. I don’t want China or right wing billionaires to own social media companies.

With that said, China’s goal with TikTok is to gather data on America, influence with soft power and peddle propaganda while sowing chaos in America politically at opportune times.

Musk and Zuckerberg still are Americans, you may not agree with them politically but at the end of the day they still want America to stay as the world’s hegemon. That by default makes them better for American interests

What does this mean? American interest? Like what? This feels like a phrase people just say. Its a meaningless vapid phrase to me. What are the American interest that Musk and Zuckerberg are supposedly better for? The continuation of capitalism? No shyt.
 

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No one is claiming Musk or Zuckerberg were “good” it was a deflection and a straw man which is why I didn’t address it. I don’t want China or right wing billionaires to own social media companies.

With that said, China’s goal with TikTok is to gather data on America, influence with soft power and peddle propaganda while sowing civil unrest in America politically at opportune times.

So basically your argument is that china wants to do the same things that elon musk and Zuckerberg actually do? :what:
Musk and Zuckerberg still are Americans, you may not agree with them politically but at the end of the day they still want America to stay as the world’s hegemon. That by default makes them better for American interests
No it doesnt, they both want to see the destruction of the current american and for it to fall into a technocratic fascist regime. These arguments made a lot more sense 15 years or so ago
 

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Its a simple argument. Elon Musk/Zuckerberg influencing the youth with western conservatism through their social media platforms is bad.
This is your claim, but you have provided no evidence to support either of the two claims:
1. That Musk and Zuckerberg are using their platforms to specifically push western conservatism
2.youre presenting an unverified claim that China does not have issues with the following obviously subbing out white and American for their Chinese counterparts
More violence, more domestic white terrorism, even larger withdrawals from human connections, lower birth rates, lower emphasis on higher education creating a less intelligent population right for the plundering by the wealthy. None of this is good for life in America.

In fact China has issues with all of these issues.
 
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