By voting against what both bases want ?AOC is gearing up for a presidential run, you should be happy
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I can’t imagine why a bunch of economically anxious citizens would feel everything was magically better once a convict racist sexual predator was electedthat drives me crazy. i fukkin knew that trump was gonna get into office, and a few months later people would "feel" that the same exact economy was "better"
Except trump is polling in the 30s with the ecomomy, however his base will back him no matter what its a cult followingthat drives me crazy. i fukkin knew that trump was gonna get into office, and a few months later people would "feel" that the same exact economy was "better"
the cac mamba
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republicans are simply better marketers, because they're allowed to take pride in america, and brag about it. if you see someone flying an american flag, you know that person is a republican
because of progressives, democrats are not allowed to brag about america. we're supposed to grovel and apologize, and point out how much everything sucks
this is partly why republicans beat Dems
at the end of the day, despite its problems, we all fukkin live here. it's OK to root for this country
This is correct
white man grievances
More white splainin. Imagine telling a black man he should take pride in segregation and funding israel over reparations
They beat them because theyre a sacrilegious cult. Many of them being white Christians whose who ideology is racism. Easy to run on pure hatred backwards thinking and religion when you're a pro white partythis is partly why republicans beat Dems
the cac mamba
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breh, i don't deny any of this. it's all true
but the fact is that white men/women are a large voting bloc, and that you win the presidency by winning the electoral college. i don't know what to tell you
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Pull Up the Roots
Breakfast for dinner.
Everyone in the comments on aoc neck rightfully so, imagine supporting israel in any way in 2025
People attacking AOC over her vote against Marjorie Taylor Greene's amendment are either being willfully dishonest or completely missing the point. Greene's amendment did nothing to stop the actual bombs or offensive weapons being used against civilians in Gaza. This is performative "anti-war" theater from MTG designed to create political cover and bait progressives into a no-win situation. And sadly, a lot of people are falling for it.
AOC has been consistent: she wants to cut off US munitions that are being used to perpetuate the genocide in Gaza. She wants to stop offensive aid -- the bombs, missiles, and weapons that are killing thousands of civilians. Voting for Greene's amendment wouldn't have done that. It would've just made it easier for the far right to posture as "anti-war" while doing nothing to actually end the violence.
Hers is a principled stance. And anyone attacking her over it cares more about performative outrage than genuine anti-war policy. It's shameful how willing people are to grant MTG credibility.
You're missing the point Israel shouldn't be provided offense or defensive munitions, is AOC going to push for funding a iron dome in Gaza iran Russia? fukk let's fund a lot of iron domes domestically. If you believe Israel is committing a genocide you should not be sending them defense weapons, the reality is aoc has always been a fraud when it comes to israel and should rightfully be called out. Nothing about her stance is principled and yes MTG is a fraud everyone knows that doesn't mean AOC should be taking non principled votes in backing israels defense after committing genocides
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@Pull Up the Roots has absorbed and synthesized leftism while being able to communicate it in a rational way, maybe you should take a step back and learn from him.
If this was Star Wars he’d be a Jedi Master in leftism and you’d be a youngling respectfully,
the cac mamba
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i know that you're not a serious person, but are you at least honest enough to admit that Hamas ended that conversation on October 7th?
as much as you like to complain about palestine losing this war, you've never articulated how israel can know that Oct 7th will never happen again. so until you can, weapons will be provided
AquaCityBoy
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republicans are simply better marketers, because they're allowed to take pride in america, and brag about it. if you see someone flying an american flag, you know that person is a republican
because of progressives, democrats are not allowed to brag about america. we're supposed to grovel and apologize, and point out how much everything sucks
this is partly why republicans beat Dems
Your favorite rapper is Tom MacDonald.
Pull Up the Roots
Breakfast for dinner.
No, I'm not missing the point -- you are. You're flattening a complex issue into ideological absolutism that sounds bold but collapses under basic scrutiny.
First, claiming that anyone who supports *any* defensive aid to Israel is complicit in genocide is not just intellectually lazy, it's morally incoherent. If the goal is to protect innocent lives, then that rejection directly increases civilian death, including children. How exactly does that align with a pro-human life stance? She doesn't want to see any innocent civilians suffer.
You're also contradicting yourself. You acknowledge that Marjorie Taylor Greene's amendment is a bad-faith stunt, yet you attack AOC for refusing to play into it. Her vote didn't greenlight genocide or send offensive aid, it rejected a performative move that would've cut off only defensive capabilities, while leaving actual US-funded bombs raining on Gaza untouched. That's what's unprincipled.
Your Russia/Iran/Iron Dome comment is complete nonsense. That's not a serious argument, it's a rhetorical smokescreen and a false equivalence. You're tossing in names to sound like you're making a broader moral point, but it's disconnected from reality.
As for AOC: she's been one of the clearest voices in Congress calling for an end to US complicity in Israel's war crimes. She's named their genocide. She's pushed for cutting lethal military aid and accountability for both Israel and the US's crimes. That's not being soft, it's being morally consistent as someone who values human life and civilian safety. You don't reduce human suffering by punishing civilians or pretending all aid is the same. Her stance doesn't excuse Israel's actions, it aims to stop the killing without fueling more. That's a serious stance from a serious person.
You're demanding purity. She's demanding accountability *and* an end to senseless death. That's the difference. So no, I didn't miss the point. I'm just not interested in abandoning critical thinking in the name of empty radicalism.
the cac mamba
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and you think that Tom Macdonald can wake up tomorrow, decide that he's a woman, and that makes it true