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if Shapiro loses the primary, that's fine. but i'm not gonna remove him from contention, because palestinians can't admit that they've gotten their asses kicked, in some barbaric foreign war that has nothing to do with any of us, and goofy ass liberals think it makes them edgy to pretend they're "fighting the israelis"

in any other universe where Hamas didn't launch October 7th, and get their asses kicked, we all know Shapiro is a strong candidate, from an important state. i'll leave it at that
It wasn't Hamas attacking that turned the world against Israel. It wasn't them going after Hamas that turned the world against Israel. It was Israel indiscriminately bombing hospitals, killing reporters, starving doctors, etc.

Josh still might be a strong candidate to the general electorate.
i think you guys place a weird level of importance on this stuff, or you're in primary mode, and not general election mode. yeah, charlie kirk is a huge fakkit, but i can't imagine dwelling on newsom making some meaningless podcast appearance :yeshrug: do you not live in the same country as MAGAs? you don't interact with republicans, as a normal part of working a job in this country?

unless you want to set up some hermit society in the woods, or go live in the antifa encampment in Portland, you can't escape talking to the rest of society :dead:it will always include trump voters
What was the benefit of him doing it? What did he extract form the meeting? What 18-35 saw Gavin Newsome in his $600 quarter-zip with the Santa Barbara Pat Riley hair and thought, "I voted for Trump this time but I'll vote for Gavin next time,"

If you vote republican you're either a racist or you don't think racism and bigotry are big deal. Charlie Kirk and Bannon represent the racists and bigots. It was an unforced error.
 

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It wasn't Hamas attacking that turned the world against Israel. It wasn't them going after Hamas that turned the world against Israel. It was Israel indiscriminately bombing hospitals, killing reporters, starving doctors, etc.

Josh still might be a strong candidate to the general electorate.
no one is gonna give a fukk about israel vs palestine in 2028. hell, progressives don't even care about it now :mjlol: they have zero smoke for trump, and he's pulling out chairs for Bibi

What was the benefit of him doing it? What did he extract form the meeting?
know what the answer is? he distanced himself from the fukking weirdos on the far left, which you have to do, to be seen as a serious national candidate

what was the takeaway from that podcast? newsom said "yeah, of course trannies in sports is fukking stupid". because it is, and most people think it is
 

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no one is gonna give a fukk about israel vs palestine in 2028. hell, progressives don't even care about it now :mjlol: they have zero smoke for trump, and he's pulling out chairs for Bibi
I never understood this line thinking. I want the people I politic to be better. I have no hope for republicans. We all know Trump is bad. I want the Democrats to better.
know what the answer is? he distanced himself from the fukking weirdos on the far left, which you have to do, to be seen as a serious national candidate

what was the takeaway from that podcast? newsom said "yeah, of course trannies in sports is fukking stupid". because it is, and most people think it is
Far left weirdoes like every Democratic senator that voted against a unilateral ban if I recall correctly. Until the establishment disavows trans people your continued attempts to paint the trans thing as "far left weirdo" issue rings hollow.

Newsom saying anything short of trans people shod be executed was not going to move the needled with Trumps base. What did happen was trump immediately came out and said Newsoms policies did not go far enough. There was nothing to be gained imo.
 

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I never understood this line thinking. I want the people I politic to be better. I have no hope for republicans. We all know Trump is bad. I want the Democrats to better.
yeah, i know that i'm in the minority for holding Hamas accountable for starting a war they couldn't finish, and refusing to surrender now

but i'm the one living in reality, not some goofy, idealistic, "Hamas is gonna take back Jerusalem" bullshyt fantasy :yeshrug: this shyt is over. Hamas cannot, and will not, win this conflict. none of you can explain how they can; because they can't

Far left weirdoes like every Democratic senator that voted against a unilateral ban if I recall correctly. Until the establishment disavows trans people your continued attempts to paint the trans thing as "far left weirdo" issue rings hollow.
yes, those Dems are cowards, who are not representing their base. Seth Moulton has talked about this. they don't actually believe that nonsense, they're just worried about the far left calling them "intolerant" :mjlol:

Newsom saying anything short of trans people shod be executed was not going to move the needled with Trumps base. What did happen was trump immediately came out and said Newsoms policies did not go far enough. There was nothing to be gained imo.
well, you better get used to it, if you're gonna be able to stomach the pivots to the center that our nominee makes in 2028. whoever he is
 

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If an open pedophile can become President then so can a crackhead :manny:
He’s not the crackhead we want but maybe he’s the crack head we need??

Let the democratic rebuild continue :blessed:

Somebody give him a microphone, studio and catchy pod cast name and let him go to work :salute:
 

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they're just worried about the far left calling them "intolerant" :mjlol:
So you're blaming your "far left" for centrist democrats being tremendous pussies? If they're as insignificant as you say what are they afraid of?

I agree that they either don't believe their position or, like most of the coubtry, probably don't actually care. Which is largely why they can't articulate a solution or argue how it's fair or how to make it fair.

I also don't think that the republicans care about women's sports.
if you're gonna be able to stomach the pivots to the center
I'd argue the democrats already are center and what you're describing as a pivot to the center is actually a step rightward. :manny:
 

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i don't even wanna hear from Buttigieg again, he brings nothing to the table. and Pritzker is just a fat Newsom, without the Hollywood angle, so why not go with the guy who will do better with women
JB got longer money than Newsome and I think we have all learned from Trump apparently looks don’t matter to women. Let the fat nikka go off and complete the rebuild. His problem is he is too fukking rich so I can already see the usual suspects emerging from the basement to kneecap his campaign in summer 2028 and make things harder than they should be as usual
 

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So you're blaming your "far left" for centrist democrats being tremendous pussies? If they're as insignificant as you say what are they afraid of?
yes, any democrat who doesn't want boys playing sports with his daughter, but votes that way to "keep up appearances", is a clown and a coward, and apparently, cannot read a poll

I'd argue the democrats already are center and what you're describing as a pivot to the center is actually a step rightward. :manny:
2+2=4 is not a right wing position. it's sad that some of the lunacy on the far left has to be disavowed nationally, but that's just the state of things
 

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So you're blaming your "far left" for centrist democrats being tremendous pussies? If they're as insignificant as you say what are they afraid of?

I agree that they either don't believe their position or, like most of the coubtry, probably don't actually care. Which is largely why they can't articulate a solution or argue how it's fair or how to make it fair.

I also don't think that the republicans care about women's sports.

I'd argue the democrats already are center and what you're describing as a pivot to the center is actually a step rightward. :manny:
He's a republican he literally sounds like trump, far left this far left that :mjlol: arguing with cac mamba a waste of time. He's closer to rand Paul than a democrat :manny:. Mind you 2 days ago he argued people should be self sufficient and not need the government, he's literally a libertarian lol
 

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JB got longer money than Newsome and I think we have all learned from Trump apparently looks don’t matter to women. Let the fat nikka go off and complete the rebuild. His problem is he is too fukking rich so I can already see the usual suspects emerging from the basement to kneecap his campaign in summer 2028 and make things harder than they should be as usual
i just don't see any scenario where Pritzker picks up more support than Newsom, in a head to head

Newsom's the bigger state, he's got more recognition, the Pelosi stimulus (pritzker's not gonna blow his own money), they both talk the same kinda shyt. i can't think of a single area Pritzker is better than Newsom, other than illinois not having a san francisco for republicans to shyt on (don't ask me how :huhldup:)
 
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