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Republicans are actually also incredibly good at governance. In terms of their respective desired outcomes, they've been running circles around the Democrats. In this modern political era, they always seem to be able to find the ability to jam through tax cuts and spending cuts and money for war and corporate interests. They set the governance tone and Democrats just try to find space within it. And the fact that they've been doing this without having the popular will of the people on their side makes their governing performance even more dominant. We live in a Republican dominated government structure, which is why this society is going to hell. Trump got into office and immediately started to make bad shyt happen. Democrats get into office and immediately start putting out reasons why they're powerless to do anything good.
They have the popular support of the people. You got that wrong.
 

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Trump is effective because he doesn't care about the law or constitution, that doesn't mean he is good at governance, that just means he doesn't care about American principles.
He's good at governance because he doesn't let arcane, fictitious concepts like "law" or "the constitution" stand in his way of enacting his governing agenda. And yeah, as you said, he's incredibly effective, especially given he has like no popular mandate for these moves. He's moving like Lincoln and FDR. He's getting his agenda enacted, which means he's good at governance. A Democrat giving up on enacting a minimum wage hike or student loan forgiveness because they defer to the Senate Parliamentarian is an example of weak, bad governance.
 

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He's good at governance because he doesn't let arcane, fictitious concepts like "law" or "the constitution" stand in his way of enacting his governing agenda. And yeah, as you said, he's incredibly effective, especially given he has like no popular mandate for these moves. He's moving like Lincoln and FDR. He's getting his agenda enacted, which means he's good at governance. A Democrat giving up on enacting a minimum wage hike or student loan forgiveness because they defer to the Senate Parliamentarian is an example of weak, bad governance.

I agree with you about the Senate Parliamentarian, but that's not a legal matter, that's a matter of internal Senate procedure, just like the filibuster.

But I think you're setting a dangerous precedent if you're ok with the head of state not obeying the law and constitution. It's all good when those reforms are being enacted for policies you support, but sooner or later there will be someone with those same powers enacting policies that you either don't support and/or are dangerous to you and your family personally.
 

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Democrats are elite school intellectuals, the average American no longer respects that class

That's fine. But they'll have to face the consequences of Medicaid/SNAP cuts as well as all the bullshyt this administration is doing with education.

Voting off vibes instead of policy has consequences.
 

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I agree with you about the Senate Parliamentarian, but that's not a legal matter, that's a matter of internal Senate procedure, just like the filibuster.

But I think you're setting a dangerous precedent if you're ok with the head of state not obeying the law and constitution. It's all good when those reforms are being enacted for policies you support, but sooner or later there will be someone with those same powers enacting policies that you either don't support and/or are dangerous to you and your family personally.
I agree but Dems got no choice now
 

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What is Trump's polling on his gestapo tactics? Or his tariff chaos? Because right now I'm seeing his net approval at -12 and the Republican Party with a 56% disapproval rating.
On specific issues, even if Trump’s polling takes hits, people still trust [insert generic republicans] on “fixing certain issues”.

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That's fine. But they'll have to face the consequences of Medicaid/SNAP cuts as well as all the bullshyt this administration is doing with education.

Voting off vibes instead of policy has consequences.
Those cuts are anticipated. They haven’t really taken hold yet so people have’t felt it enough to truly warrant all the doom and gloom. They set it up to offset future democratic administrations and midterms.
 

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I agree with you about the Senate Parliamentarian, but that's not a legal matter, that's a matter of internal Senate procedure, just like the filibuster.
Right, but either way, they're both examples of soft restraints being treated as hard restraints. Trump doesn't even acknowledge soft restraints. Which is why he pushed and tests the system and gets away with more than Democrats could dare dream of. That's effective governing. Outcomes.

But I think you're setting a dangerous precedent if you're ok with the head of state not obeying the law and constitution. It's all good when those reforms are being enacted for policies you support, but sooner or later there will be someone with those same powers enacting policies that you either don't support and/or are dangerous to you and your family personally.
Ideally I would wish for a head of state to obey the law and constitution, they are guardrails against chaos and create the stability needed for a well-functioning society. They're like seatbelts. But in an emergency situation like trying to escape from a car on fire, wearing your seatbelt may end up costing you your life. The current context of this moment in history requires those guardrails to be disregarded in order to save the country. I want them put back in and respected when we're not in an emergency, but right now there is only one side playing by those rules, and they're getting killed because of it. There's no moral victory to be had where Trump is taking us.
 

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On specific issues, even if Trump’s polling takes hits, people still trust [insert generic republicans] on “fixing certain issues”.

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Can you show me a poll with 50%+ trusting "insert generic Republican" on fixing a relevant issue? Because the screenshot you posted has nothing to do with your claim. And mind you, the data that would support your claim isn't Republican vs Democrat, it's generic Republican in a vacuum.
 

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Can you show me a poll with 50%+ trusting "insert generic Republican" on fixing a relevant issue? Because the screenshot you posted has nothing to do with your claim. And mind you, the data that would support your claim isn't Republican vs Democrat, it's generic Republican in a vacuum.
Trump himself gets bad marks but voters trust republicans more to address issues:

https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/democratic-party-poll-voter-confidence-july-2025-9db38021




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Look, I get tired of having to do your homework for you every time you try to “own” me. I’m not trying to just cram some agenda down your throat and bully you. I’m trying to get you to accept that “reality” isn’t what you think it SHOULD be, but that theres real obstacles facing democrats and there needs to be a shift in policy formation, framing and the coalitions supporting those issues.
 

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They talked about it on the majority report that republicans will eventually outflank democrats on not supporting israel one trump is gone, they're flat out better politicans. Zero democrat politicians should be supporting israel, the base doesn't
 

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This reflects so much of what I was saying about the defund the police moment. Arguing statistics doesn’t matter. People FEEL unsafe, so you must address that.

This is the same problem NYC had when there was a crime spike and advocates and activists were “gaslighting” people by saying the stats said otherwise or some other rambling bullshyt. Democrats have to get beyond intellectualizing this shyt. It’s core governance.

You all love to give Republicans credit for "doing something" yet disappear when that "something" results in theatrics, something illegal or morally reprehensible. Yet, you can only give Democrats credit if their "something" exceeds expectations.

Look at the bar you've unconsciously set.
 

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Can you show me a poll with 50%+ trusting "insert generic Republican" on fixing a relevant issue? Because the screenshot you posted has nothing to do with your claim. And mind you, the data that would support your claim isn't Republican vs Democrat, it's generic Republican in a vacuum.

My gut feeling is that Napoleon is constantly trying to couch the fact that he is now, in fact, a Republican, by trying to claim that it is the general public that supports his own actual policy preferences.

He leans right on virtually every major policy question I can think of (I don't know about his position on climate change) and only supports democrats because he is black and republicans are a white nationalist party.
 
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