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With all due respect, I don't believe you have a high school diploma. I don't believe you're qualified to be in this discussion. Please post your GED before trying to engage me in debate again. Thanks.
Lol. I have a PhD. You are a fukking piece of shyt. You don't know anything. You aren't even a US citizen. You voice doesn't matter. You're a piece of shyt.
 

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What? You're a worst level poster. I don't know why you haven't been banned. You're a piece of shyt. I'm a democrat. I voted democrat for the last 20 years, if not more. You think cosplaying as a Palestinian makes you somehow special. If you really cared, you would go to Palestine and fight against Israel. You don't really care, you just want to win internet points for being pro Hamas.
The mods are big fans of his. In any other timeline he would have been banned after the several threats he’s made against posters.
 

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Also, I don't think there is such a thing as a Democratic influencer because the brand is so toxic regardless of whatever wins you want to attribute to Biden/Harriss run.

The faces of the party come across as mealy mouthed losers beholden to their corporate pupeteers. Until that's addressed none of the other shyt matters. so how do you carry that forward into influencing. I don't remember anyone thinking the Krassensteins are cool (dated reference probably).

The country has shown they'd rather have an idiot that seems like they're speaking frankly than a smart person that's obviously regurtigating focus grouped bullshyt.
 

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I dont listen to hasan but he seems more principled then the people in the article. In fact I have expected him to sell out for some time considering his fame and he hasn't. He's taken some very unpopular opinions when most don't in the party

I don't mind liberals, I hate shills. People like Harry sisson, that one fat gen z bytch are objectively bad for the party and give a bad idea of what young voters think about the party. Pakmans been trash for about 5 years now himself, but people still like him( based on nostalgia) I'll give them grace.
How is Pakman trash? He’s better and more intelligent than Hassan.

Hassan is beholden to the mob which is his fanbase. If he says anything out of line from the political zeitgeist he has cultivated he’d get canceled by the puritan left and so would his revenue stream. He’s as beholden special interests as anyone else, it’s just in a different more plebeian form
 

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Hassan is as much of a grifter as Cenk yet that doesn’t stop you from being his disciple. If you don’t want to watch liberals then that’s fine, your ilk shouldn’t drag their names through the mud for no damn reason though. You whiners are doing the Republicans job for them.
He’s critical of these paid influencers only because his default position is to be critical of anything the Democratic Party does.

He’s also critical of these paid influencers because he wants us to and needs himself to believe he’s not a victim of influence campaigns himself thus pretending he’s able to discern between the two.
 

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Hassan is as much of a grifter as Cenk yet that doesn’t stop you from being his disciple. If you don’t want to watch liberals then that’s fine, your ilk shouldn’t drag their names through the mud for no damn reason though. You whiners are doing the Republicans job for them.
What is peculiar is this Taylor women seems to be being paid the exact same amount by the same person, just under a different umbrella. Strange.
 

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Lost 3 elections to fascist and still saying this :mjlol:
Leftist can’t even win a damn primary.

Liberals need to re-event themselves, Americans are tired of neo-liberalism but the liberal worldview is still the most superior for where humanities collective consciousness is right now
 

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How is Pakman trash? He’s better and more intelligent than Hassan.

Very bland doesn't take any positions that goes against the party's establishment. Since he started having establishment dems on around 2019 he's been down hill.
Hassan is beholden to the mob which is his fanbase. If he says anything out of line from the political zeitgeist he has cultivated he’d get canceled by the puritan left and so would his revenue stream.

i dont listen to Hasan, but grom the clips i have seen hes always arguing with his base. He doesnt seem beholden by his fanbase at all
He’s as beholden special interests as anyone else, it’s just in a different more plebeian form
What special interest? This a serious accusation
 

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Leftist can’t even win a damn primary.

If american ran parliamentary systems leftist would easily win. Liberalism is a dying brand around the world. People want either the far right or further left. Center politics is the weakest brand
Liberals need to re-event themselves, Americans are tired of neo-liberalism but the liberal worldview is still the most superior for where humanities collective consciousness is right now
Not only Neoliberalism? Liberalism in general people are tired of the status quo liberalism.
 

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Leftist definitionally don’t believe in corporate money, they should be fine with their meager crowd sourced funding. Liberals however do believe in a well regulated private, public partnership and are willing to accept corporate money if their goals are aligned.
Sure, I'm not the one complaining here, and I haven't seen any leftists upset that they're not getting dark money funding from Democratic-aligned groups. I'm just saying that this group funding these creators is a hilarious dead-end waste of time and money because the product sucks. They have no juice because they're pushing a dead pro-establishment ideology.

Liberals are better equipped to fight the fascist MAGA right who proudly accept conservative dark money. Morality only matters if you’re the ones defining what morality is while in power. The left of center needs to recapture power and especially the youth by any means necessary.
Liberals are not better equipped to fight the fascist MAGA because they have no ideological ammunition. The money only works if you have shooters. This isn't about morality, it's about winners and losers. If the left of center needs to recapture power and the youth by any means necessary, then they need to ditch these programs and their ban on critiquing establishment.

The left needs to shut up and keep their purity politics amongst themselves, nobody gives a damn and it’s retarded to fight a propaganda war with one hand tied behind your back because “it’s the right thing to do”
PUT THE SHOOTERS IN, COACH
 

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Very bland doesn't take any positions that goes against the party's establishment. Since he started having establishment dems on around 2019 he's been down hill.

He doesn’t shyt on Dems enough for your liking.
i dont listen to Hasan, but grom the clips i have seen hes always arguing with his base. He doesnt seem beholden by his fanbase at all

That’s part of the bit that streamers do for content. It’s not real animosity
What special interest? This a serious accusation
His special interests are the people who donate to his stream. If he starts to say things that they don’t like then they stop donating. It’s that simple. The mob which is his viewer base controls what he says implicitly
 

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Lol. I have a PhD. You are a fukking piece of shyt. You don't know anything. You aren't even a US citizen. You voice doesn't matter. You're a piece of shyt.
Brother, you post like you're under medical supervision and have to go in for brain scans once a week. The only PhD you have is Trump University. Post your GED or get lost.
 
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