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New Hope For the HaveNotz
I’m the wrong person to ask, the only politican alive that I stan is Obama and I don’t have any media thought leaders that I take as gospel. YouTubers I like that are pragmatic are David Pakman, Vaush and Hutch.
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the cac mamba
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politicians should be treated like rental cars. i vote for people who can win elections, and reasonably govern the state/country
if you need someone to "get you jumping". go to a concert
That line of thinking is how you end up with trumppoliticians should be treated like rental cars. i vote for people who can win elections, and reasonably govern the state/country
if you need someone to "get you jumping". go to a concert
the cac mamba
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no, running women is how you end up with trump. when he ran against a man, he got his ass kicked. wasn't even close
Biden definitely beats Trump in 2016, if he could do it 4 years later and older. Fox/Republicans' "well, trump is a bad guy, but hillary is the antichrist" playbook wouldn't have worked on Biden at all
and i'm willing to bet Newsom, Shapiro or Chris Murphy thrashes Trump in 2024. we just needed a credible male who wasn't biden or harris. running on defending their own personal fukked up economy
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the cac mamba
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the cac mamba
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Nope. Trump would have beat Biden too if not for a once In a Lifetime pandemic. He made him bow out of a race, nothing more disgraced and damninf than that. We got lucky the pandemic ruined the ecomomy because trump would have won that reelection if the voltron Pushed trump
the cac mamba
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possibly, but he definitely wouldn't have beaten him in 2016
all we know for sure is that trump is 2/3, and the only president in 240 years who had to run against women to win.
Yes he would have lol. Biden was the establishment in 2016, trump ran against obamas administration. You in higher learning you should understand how this works better. Biden would have lost worse than Hilary in 2016
Our best chance at beating trump in 16 was Bernie
Our best chance in 2024 was a primary in 2022.
The party decided against both, we been running the bill clinton play book for 30 years, it's why republicans keep winning
the cac mamba
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no, the fukk he would not have. this is just you coping with bernie failing
everyone knows that that "hillary is the antichrist" shyt, and her having to break the gender barrier, would not have worked on a biden who was 4 years younger and sharper than the biden who literally BEAT trump in 2020. Fox News had been building a campaign against hillary for 20 years
actually i could see him paralleling Bush 88 exactly. wins in 2016, then gets beat in 2020 by a new republican
Biden wasn't winning in 2016no, the fukk he would not have. this is just you coping with bernie failing
everyone knows that that "hillary is the antichrist" shyt, and her having to break the gender barrier, would not have worked on a biden who was 4 years younger and sharper than the biden who literally BEAT trump in 2020. Fox News had been building a campaign against hillary for 20 years
actually i could see him paralleling Bush 88 exactly. wins in 2016, then gets beat in 2020 by a new republican
obama barely won in 2012, his vice preident was not winning in 2016 which is why he intelligently didnt run. All that Hilary shyt is right wing babble, nothing to do with how electoral politics actually work. Fox News and trump himself did a decade of framing and hating on biden/obama, biden taking 4 years off actually rehabilitated his legacy.
the cac mamba
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you seem to forget that 2016 was just a constant stream of republicans having to backtrack and apologize and disavow all the awful shyt trump was doing and saying; people thought he was a massive piece of shyt. and yet time and time again, we got "well, trump is awful, but a clinton white house is just unfathomable"Biden wasn't winning in 2016
that does not work on biden. but it worked on hillary. maybe the female thing alone killed her, but it did. and you're talking like biden didn't BEAT TRUMP
i'm not making up that biden could have beaten him. he DID beat him, even after badly losing a step. biden '16 was closer to the guy who beat up paul ryan, than the corpse who ran in 2020at some point, you'll have to move past bernie sanders. he's a loser