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MTG is a piece of shyt, but she is actually one of the most genuine people in Congress and has consistently been critical of Israel. The caveat is that I think the anti-Israeli sentiment from the right tends to be more motivated by antisemitism and Nationalism. She and Tucker may be saying the same things as a lot of people on the left, but I dont think it comes from the same place. I dont think they actually give a shyt about Palestinians, I think they just dont like how subordinate the US political establishment seems to Israel's interests.
What is antisemitism to you?

I don’t think anyone would have an issue with semites in the modern day if Zionist billionaires weren’t actively making the world a worse place
 

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What is antisemitism to you?

I don’t think anyone would have an issue with semites in the modern day if Zionist billionaires weren’t actively making the world a worse place
I'd argue them and israel make life 100x harder for the average jew. Israel singlehandedly has caused the rise in antisemitism
 

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Some say it’s by design. The Zionist puppeteers want to increase the hate towards Jews so that they’ll migrate to Israel for a “safe place”.
I recently read or watched something that said they are limiting how many people can leave Israel but pushing for more people to relocate there.
 

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What is antisemitism to you?

I don’t think anyone would have an issue with semites in the modern day if Zionist billionaires weren’t actively making the world a worse place
Sounds uncomfortably close to, “I don’t think anyone would have issues with black people if they didn’t make up 90% of violent criminals but only 10% of the population.”
 

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Sounds uncomfortably close to, “I don’t think anyone would have issues with black people if they didn’t make up 90% of violent criminals but only 10% of the population.”

We really need to start saying Zionist instead of semite. I get what you're saying but it comes way too close to telling people they're not allowed to criticize Israel without being antisemetic.

Personally I resent the fact that I can't travel outside of the country without being despised because of our government supporting Israel's BS.
 

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Sounds uncomfortably close to, “I don’t think anyone would have issues with black people if they didn’t make up 90% of violent criminals but only 10% of the population.”
This is stupidity, we don't need to do low iq babble here that stuff works cnn or some shyt clearly we talking about the zionist state of israel
 

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This is stupidity, we don't need to do low iq babble here that stuff works cnn or some shyt clearly we talking about the zionist state of israel
The core point of your argument is that "Israel causes antisemitism." You're blaming people for their own hate, and that is sloppy.

You're shifting the responsibility away from the people choosing to be antisemitic, especially when you say "Israel single-handedly has caused the rise in antisemitism."

You're also unintentionally absolving people like Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Nick Fuentes, and the social media engine at the center of it all that's driving a lot of the narrative. That is dangerous.

What is antisemitism to you?

I don’t think anyone would have an issue with semites in the modern day if Zionist billionaires weren’t actively making the world a worse place
Some say it’s by design. The Zionist puppeteers want to increase the hate towards Jews so that they’ll migrate to Israel for a “safe place”.
This is Protocols of the Elders of Zion babble. You have completely lost the plot.
 

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The core point of your argument is that "Israel causes antisemitism." You're blaming people for their own hate, and that is sloppy.

You're shifting the responsibility away from the people choosing to be antisemitic, especially when you say "Israel single-handedly has caused the rise in antisemitism."

You're also unintentionally absolving people like Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Nick Fuentes, and the social media engine at the center of it all that's driving a lot of the narrative. That is dangerous.



This is Protocols of the Elders of Zion babble. You have completely lost the plot.
Agree with everything except this part.
 

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“Antiwar antisemitism is still antisemitism.”

The word antisemitism is dead
Did you read this? What problem do you have with it? Because he is right about Kent.

In the letter, Kent lays responsibility for the war not at Trump’s feet, but Israel’s. In his telling, the president was helpless in the face of an Israeli “misinformation” campaign, an unwitting dupe for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s desire to drag America into a war not in its interests.

“Iran posed no imminent threat to the United States, and it is clear that we started this war due to pressure from Israel and its powerful American lobby,” he writes.

There is some truth here: Netanyahu did indeed lobby Trump to go to war, as did pro-Israel members of the broader Republican coalition. The administration’s attempt to justify its dubious claims of an “imminent threat” from Iran by citing an impending attack on Israel also reinforced the perception that Israel forced America into war.

But Kent’s letter is carefully crafted to paint Trump as an empty vessel, a person with no beliefs or agency other than what the Israelis and their allies implant there.

“High-ranking Israeli officials and influential members of the American media…[served as] an echo chamber used to deceive you,” he writes to Trump.
In fact, Trump has been hawkish on Iran for decades. Back in the 1980s, he called for troop deployments to the country and a US-led campaign to seize control over Iranian oil. In his first term, he tore up a nuclear deal designed to prevent war and assassinated a top Iranian military leader.

Moreover, Israeli leaders have lobbied every president in the 21st century to go to war in Iran; Trump is the only one who said yes. This suggests the key variable is less Israeli power over US foreign policy generally than the specific preference set and worldview of this president.

But Kent’s letter paints a picture of US foreign policy in the Middle East as being one giant Israeli conspiracy. The 2003 invasion of Iraq was, in his telling, not the result of US intelligence failures or post-9/11 rage or even neoconservative hubris; rather, he says, it was the result of an Israeli “lie” (what exactly that lie was is never explained).

Even more bizarrely, he describes the tragic death of his wife Shannon in a 2019 ISIS suicide bombing as part of “a war manufactured by Israel.” Shannon Kent was a Navy intelligence officer deployed to Syria under then-President Trump to support US operations against the Islamic State; it is unclear how the US mission to destroy ISIS, which Kent praises elsewhere in the letter, was in any way conducted at Israel’s behest.


The utter implausibility of these claims gives the game away. Kent is not merely expressing opposition to the Iran war or even the US-Israel alliance, but rather developing a broader conspiracy theory in which the true and just “America First” foreign policy was derailed by the nefarious influence of “Israel and its powerful American lobby,” aided by unspecified elements of “the media.”

Trump and MAGA did not fail in Iran, in Kent’s view; they were betrayed by the same dark forces that have been corrupting American foreign policy for the entire 21st century. And given the corner of far-right politics Kent hails from, it should be fairly clear what religion those dark forces represent.

That Kent’s position veered into antisemitism is unsurprising.

In 2021, when he was running for Congress in Washington, Kent called the white nationalist influencer Nick Fuentes to get advice on social media strategy. In 2022, he did an interview with neo-Nazi blogger Greyson Arnold and hired a member of the Proud Boys as a campaign consultant.

Given these demonstrable ties to GOP’s rising antisemitic wing, it’s not surprising that Kent would see the Iran war in the way that he does. One of the leading voices in that camp — the podcaster Candace Owens — immediately clocked what Kent was doing, writing a post on X that turned the antisemitic subtext of his letter into text.

“May American troops take his lead and look into conscientious objection to Bibi’s Red Heifer War. Goyim stand down,” she tweeted, using a Hebrew word for non-Jews that antisemites have increasingly adopted as part of their lexicon.

This is not merely horrible social media chatter, but the earliest glimmers of an extremely dangerous development for the Republican party.

At present, Republican dissent over the Iran war is mostly limited to influencers like Owens and Tucker Carlson: polls show that roughly 85 percent of actual Republican voters are on board. This is largely a product of the base’s faith in Trump personally; it is vanishingly unlikely that MAGA voters will trust Kent over the president, and turn their back on a war he is leading.


But if this war continues to go poorly, public opinion will turn — much in the same way as many Republicans now view President George W. Bush’s war in Iraq as an obvious mistake.

In such a future, Republican voters will be looking for someone to tell them why their president led them astray. Kent’s letter is setting up an obvious scapegoat: the Jews.

You can imagine a future, after dozens of American soldiers are dead and an oil shock throws the economy into recession, in which right-wing figures like Owens, Fuentes, and Carlson promote a narrative of Jewish perfidy with the “Kent letter” as proof — and find an audience in a party increasingly open to antisemitic views. “Stabbed in the back” narratives are a hallmark of fascist movements past, and this is how they tend to get started.

Kent’s letter, then, is not really a sign of rising Republican resistance to the Iran war that could augur its premature end. Rather, it is an opening salvo in a future political war over how the war’s (likely) failure should be interpreted — and an extremely ugly one at that.

War critics who do not want to legitimize antisemitic conspiracism need to see this for what it is — and distance themselves from it accordingly.
 

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The core point of your argument is that "Israel causes antisemitism." You're blaming people for their own hate, and that is sloppy.

Incorrect I'm blaming the government of Israel and its zionist supporters for the rise in antisemitism
You're shifting the responsibility away from the people choosing to be antisemitic, especially when you say "Israel single-handedly has caused the rise in antisemitism."

Reach
You're also unintentionally absolving people like Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Nick Fuentes, and the social media engine at the center of it all that's driving a lot of the narrative. That is dangerous.

All those right wing hacks you listed wouldn't be able to grift and hop on the anti israel wagon if israel wasn't behaving like a genocidal, terroristic, imperialist ethnostate.
This is Protocols of the Elders of Zion babble. You have completely lost the plot.
It's the obvious you have, whole post was zionist babble
 

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The core point of your argument is that "Israel causes antisemitism." You're blaming people for their own hate, and that is sloppy.

You're shifting the responsibility away from the people choosing to be antisemitic, especially when you say "Israel single-handedly has caused the rise in antisemitism."

You're also unintentionally absolving people like Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Nick Fuentes, and the social media engine at the center of it all that's driving a lot of the narrative. That is dangerous.



This is Protocols of the Elders of Zion babble. You have completely lost the plot.
“"If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel." - First PM of Israel.

Is it antisemitic to quote him?

The Protocols of the elders of Zion has never been debunked.


Just because you heard it was doesn’t mean it has been
 
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