That's not what he wanted his legacy to ve, once again trump will say anything to get elected. You don't add Marco Rubio to your cabinet if you want to be a "peace presidential "
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Outlaw
New Hope For the HaveNotz
Trump wanted a Nobel peace prize, took credit for ending ten thousand wars and said he would be a President of peace but sure he didn’t want to be a peace president
Occam’s razor
Pull Up the Roots
Talking? During horse head bookends?
There's a critical distinction between political critique and prejudice. It's reasonable to critique Israel's violent, genocidal behavior, Zionism as a supremacist ideology, and the structures empowering it. It's reasonable to analyze how political actors exploit narratives about Jews in ways that can fuel antisemitism. But it's not reasonable to claim "Israel single-handedly has caused the rise in antisemitism." That is excusing far-right ethnonationalism, something that has been consistent and historically rooted in antisemitism.
Groups like Patriot Front, the groyper movement, and so on, and events like "Unite the Right," didn't emerge as a response to Israel. Neither did conspiracy theories like the "Great Replacement" or animals like Robert Gregory Bowers. These are rooted in longstanding far-right ideologies that predate and operate independently of Israel, repackaged for today.
Groups like Patriot Front, the groyper movement, and so on, and events like "Unite the Right," didn't emerge as a response to Israel. Neither did conspiracy theories like the "Great Replacement" or animals like Robert Gregory Bowers. These are rooted in longstanding far-right ideologies that predate and operate independently of Israel, repackaged for today.
She mismanaged her campaign and connections. Apparently shacked up to the current top guy at The Onion?
From what small anecdotal chatter I can provide, Kat being a willing political crash-out for the greater good is nice, but she has no experience so people were tossing their votes to Biss. She has brand recognition now so I expect her to re-run for something, somewhere.Biss should be a good Rep, but I don't live where he mayored to have certainty. I go up there a lot and people there are generally happy with him, outside NIMBYs. Tried greater housing density, reparations was on the move with him as mayor, for universal health care and so on.
However, money changes people so we will see...
KFBF
Superstar
Acknowledging Israel's role in the whole thing isn't absolving Trump. He's the one that decided to push the button.
If the argument is that Trump is a liar, I don't know why wed believe him on this. He said that shyt because it appealed to the isolationist faction of his base. I get what you're saying I just don't believe Trump actually cared. He's now patting himself on the back for going to war with Iran because the other presidents were scared whatever. He wanted a Nobel peace prize because Obama had one and he craves acknowledgement and validation.
This is Donald Trump on israel
Here’s a clear, citation‑based historical overview of Donald Trump’s public comments about Israel across four periods: before his presidency, during his first term, after his first term while campaigning, and during his second term.
I’m keeping this strictly factual and sourced, without offering any political opinions.
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Donald Trump’s Comments About Israel: A Timeline1. Before His Presidency (Pre‑2017)
Publicly documented comments before Trump’s presidency are less frequent, but one notable theme was his criticism of U.S. policy toward Israel and his claim that he would be a stronger ally than previous presidents.
• In 2015–2016 campaign speeches, he repeatedly promised to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital and move the U.S. embassy there — a promise he later fulfilled in office. (General historical record; no specific citations from the search corpus.)
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2. During His First Term (2017–2021)
Strong Support for Israel
Trump frequently emphasized that his administration had the “best relationship” with Israel.
• In 2018, he said the U.S. and Israel were “as close now as maybe ever before,” highlighting his decision to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital. The American...
• He also noted that many presidents had promised to move the embassy but “never were able to do what they should have done.” The American...
Symbolic Gestures
• In 2020, he presented Netanyahu with a ceremonial “key to the White House,” calling it a “token of affection” and praising Netanyahu as “an amazing leader.” The White House
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3. After His First Term: Public Comments & Campaigning (2021–2024)
Praise for His Own Record
• In 2023, Trump said he “fought for Israel like no president ever before,” citing his recognition of Jerusalem and Israeli sovereignty over the Golan Heights. The Hill
Criticism of Netanyahu
• In the same period, he criticized Netanyahu for having “let us down,” sparking pushback from Israeli officials. The Hill
Comments on Gaza War (2023–2024)
• In March 2024, he urged Israel to “finish the problem” in its war against Hamas — his most definitive comment on the conflict at that time. NBC News
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4. During His Second Term (2025–Present)
Trump’s second term has included frequent, high‑profile statements about Israel, especially during the Gaza conflict and the broader Middle East crisis.
Knesset Speech (October 13, 2025)
In a major address to Israel’s parliament, Trump repeatedly described a “historic dawn of a new Middle East.”
Key themes included:
• Praise for Israel’s conduct in the war.
• Calls for a new era of peace.
• Religious framing: “the beginning of the age of faith and hope and of God.”
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Comments Urging Restraint (June 24, 2025)
• Trump said he was “not happy that Israel’s going out now” in response to an Iranian rocket and urged Israeli leaders to “calm down.” The Times of...
Denying Rift With Netanyahu (2026)
• Trump dismissed reports of tension with Netanyahu as “fake news,” insisting their relationship was “extraordinary.” Times of ... +1
Threats Toward Iran in Defense of Israel (2026)
• After Iranian attacks on Israel and Gulf states, Trump warned of major retaliation, saying “watch what happens.” Yahoo
Statements on the Israel–Hamas Agreement (2025)
• He announced the “first phase” of a deal involving hostage releases and Israeli troop withdrawal, calling it a major breakthrough. PBS
Seriously, if you know Trump is a liar just judge him based on his actions.
And his actions show he does believe in Israel and has always been a staunch supporter.
And his actions show he does believe in Israel and has always been a staunch supporter.
Trump does not give a fukk about his legacy. He operates purely off of current self-interest.
Outlaw
New Hope For the HaveNotz
I can’t tell the difference between an Ashkenazi Jew and an average cac, blaming racism and prejudice is a disingenuous sleight of hand that Zionist hide behind. I don’t think anyone on this site truly hate Jewish people as an ethnicity, but they dislike Zionist who make the world a materially worse place.
I think it’s disingenuous to lump those left of center with far right groups because their reason for hate is much different than our critiques on this site.
Most people who hate Israel hate Israel because of its actions not because of the Jewish diaspora.
Outlaw
New Hope For the HaveNotz
I disagree but even if I grant you that, invading Iran runs counter to his self-interest if blackmail isn’t part of the equation.
You think Trump gives a fukk about Israeli security?
No, I don't think Trump inherently gives a fukk about Israel either.
But he probably thought the war would be a good distraction from his domestic issues (Epstein, economy, ICE, etc.) and that it would be quick and easy.
KFBF
Superstar
I think, and reporting into the decision making seems to corroborate this, he's an idiot and he thought it was an easy win.
the cac mamba
Veteran
let the rebuild continue 
Outlaw
New Hope For the HaveNotz
Epstien worked for the Zionist state, you don’t think they have the unredacted files?
IMO what you both are saying takes a bigger leap of faith than then simple answer that Israel has blackmail and forced Trump’s hand.
A lot of back and forth from the usual suspects doing their time honored tradition…absolving Trump of blame and agency whenever and wherever possible.