Democratic Party Rebuild

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@Pull Up the Roots you got some serious explaining to do!

 

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Saying iran was no imminent threat that's antisemitic

 

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God damn this a Jewish district

 

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Edit: I don't understand the instinct to try to catch internet posters in a gotcha moment vs interrogating the kind of obvious hypocrisy of the CBC.

Because he doesn’t actually believe what he is arguing. It’s weird.

 

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Conflating criticism of Israel and their actions as criticism of all Jews is what has stifled legitimate criticism of what's been happening for decades.

And also antisemetic

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

this what @Pull Up the Roots was defending

The core point of your argument is that "Israel causes antisemitism." You're blaming people for their own hate, and that is sloppy.

You're shifting the responsibility away from the people choosing to be antisemitic, especially when you say "Israel single-handedly has caused the rise in antisemitism."

You're also unintentionally absolving people like Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Nick Fuentes, and the social media engine at the center of it all that's driving a lot of the narrative. That is dangerous.



This is Protocols of the Elders of Zion babble. You have completely lost the plot.

That's what you *think* you're doing but the way you word it is doing more than that. Look at the wording *you* used.

I'm not reaching. That is what you're doing.

You're basically saying: antisemites are reacting to something external, not consciously choosing hatred. You have removed their agency. You are treating them like passive actors. You are effectively absolving them of any responsibility for their conscious choice to hate and spread hate.

Yep, I'm a zionist because I don't invoke racist tropes about Jews. Social media really did a number on some of you.

There's a critical distinction between political critique and prejudice. It's reasonable to critique Israel's violent, genocidal behavior, Zionism as a supremacist ideology, and the structures empowering it. It's reasonable to analyze how political actors exploit narratives about Jews in ways that can fuel antisemitism. But it's not reasonable to claim "Israel single-handedly has caused the rise in antisemitism." That is excusing far-right ethnonationalism, something that has been consistent and historically rooted in antisemitism.

Groups like Patriot Front, the groyper movement, and so on, and events like "Unite the Right," didn't emerge as a response to Israel. Neither did conspiracy theories like the "Great Replacement" or animals like Robert Gregory Bowers. These are rooted in longstanding far-right ideologies that predate and operate independently of Israel, repackaged for today.

These are the post I made on this subject. Quote or highlight the parts doing what you claim. If you can't do that, admit you were lying and apologize.

 

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Either we think billionaires funding large amounts of money into an election sways it or we don’t.

Swap Pritzker for AIPAC and I promise you the response would be different.

For the record, I think it is an important conversation to have, but I don't think this is the right race for it.

Stratton's win was far away from it being a monetarily-swayed thing. Before the PAC money came, she was already well liked. Stratton was a shoo-in for Governor if P left to run for prez. The primary debate kind of solidified her to the voting base at large, beyond being a Pritzker endorsed name. Stratton's financial boost the caucus is pointing out came after the debate where she essentially cemented victory.

Raja Krishnamoorthi's campaign was far more flush with money to buy the election, and they certainly tried to from start to finish. To see the caucus blaming P dropping comparatively small ad money in the final month AFTER the debate as manipulating the scales is completely misleading, and that is where I think they lose it. They have a perfect example of their complaint in Raja, yet they choose the wrong people to blame. Perhaps because they benefited from Raja's campaign ads that were selected to specifically prop up Kelly at the expensive of Stratton votes.

Some additional perspective, Krishnamoorthi had bankrolled his campaign from big donors, crypto bros and PACs where he had multiplicatively more money than his competitors. Stratton and Kelly weren't far off from fundraising until P dropped the bag for ads in Feb, and to reiterate again was comparatively tiny when you look at Raja's spending.

 

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Michigan voting for Abdul

That full circle moment where him losing to big gretch actually was a good thing for him