Democrats Afraid That They Will Win Election if They Impeach Trump

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The current Democratic party is a mix of liberals and progressives working together through compromise, that would not change. Conservatism is the minority and will continue to dwindle as boomers die out.

A third party is inevitable in the landscape of politics of this country. The upcoming generations will be overwhelmingly liberal/progressive, making conservatism that much more of a minority where moderates will no longer be able to straddle the fence for survival. At some point the liberals and progressives won't see the need in working together on compromise since obtaining a majority vote of the 2-halves for Congress and the WH would not be far fetched and would give them a majority.

The foundation of division is already set, it only gets worse from here, especially when Dems regain power.

To be honest I think your prediction of conservatism becoming a minority position is wildly optimistic. Some people are going to get more conservative as they get older. It's hard for me to imagine that splitting the left-leaning vote will help anybody other than the GOP. :yeshrug:

Certainly only helped them in 2000 and 2016.
 

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Many of the criticisms are valid.

But at a certain point, bashing Dems all day is only going to discourage people from voting for them and help the GOP.
I talked about this before but I don't think there's any evidence showing there’s a relationship between public disagreement among democrats and electoral gains made by republicans.

The GOP primary in 2016 where everybody called Trump a fraud and serial liar gave him the WH. 2010 Tea Party primaries were vicious and it handed the Republicans the House. the bitter Clinton/Obama primary gave Obama 8 years
 

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The Dems nominated Hilary Clinton in 2016. At what point did you think they were interested in winning elections?

You can string bankers up on lampposts or you can listen to an 80 year old man tell you about his wild and crazy youth in Wilmington, Delaware.
 

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Many of the criticisms are valid.

But at a certain point, bashing Dems all day is only going to discourage people from voting for them and help the GOP.
You and @Pressure are basically Bill Maher. The Democratic Party beefed all throughout 2016 through 2018 and then showed up to lead a historic turnaround in the House despite gerrymandering. You’re ignoring what happened just last year but you stopped actually analyzing things a long time ago. It’s annoying and factually inaccurate. You say ignorant things like people will get more conservative as they age which goes against basic political psychology 101 which shows that people’s politics form in their late teens to 20s and never changes over the course of their lives. This is college level stuff. My goodness. But I’m discouraging voting by having actual principles that causes people to come out to vote. People like “ us” are why the party is moving left. Stop spreading your pessimism to the teenagers on this board following these discussions.
 

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You made a thread off of my post now you're assigning a different position to me. Give it up. Get me off your mind.
 

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To be honest I think your prediction of conservatism becoming a minority position is wildly optimistic. Some people are going to get more conservative as they get older. It's hard for me to imagine that splitting the left-leaning vote will help anybody other than the GOP. :yeshrug:

Certainly only helped them in 2000 and 2016.
This article references both a Pew and YouGov study on trends of conservative/Republican self-identification of people under 30. Even with the surge in the alt-right, conservatism among the youth is on the decline.

The Kids Aren’t Alt-Right
 

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You made a thread off of my post now you're assigning a different position to me. Give it up. Get me off your mind.
Are you responding to me or someone I have in here on ignore? I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm talking about that "but but but" persona that he has and you dap him up a lot. It's nothing more than that.
 

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Are you responding to me or someone I have in here on ignore? I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm talking about that "but but but" persona that he has and you dap him up a lot. It's nothing more than that.
It ain't that serious. I randomly dap posts. I used to call him out for being a pessimist all the time. But now I just dap and enjoy who he is.

I posted the same tweet earlier in another thread because I agree that it's a terrible position for anyone to hold.

But I'm on record saying I believe Trump should be impeached, I don't think it has any negative impact to any significant portion of likely dem voters.

Same with highly contentious primaries. All the data I've seen suggests negative campaigns don't depress turnout.

I'm 2016 the only group that was significantly down compared to expectations were black voters and I'm sure that had more to do with 2 Obama birthers as candidates that weren't really running a campaign that focused on the black vote. :yeshrug:
 

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We need a viable independent 3rd party because this scam has gone on long enough 2 wings same damned bird...:stopitslime:
The problem is the fascists all vote together and nothing but the destruction of their party will break up that voting block. Pair that with the electoral college and the only solution is the dems growing a spine, which is about as likely as seeing Jimmy Hendrix go on tour next year.
 

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The problem is the fascists all vote together and nothing but the destruction of their party will break up that voting block. Pair that with the electoral college and the only solution is the dems growing a spine, which is about as likely as seeing Jimmy Hendrix go on tour next year.
Did you hear about Corey and his stunt today? Does the Democrats appear to be ready to get serious on combating this administration?

A party that relied on a Republican to bail them out. Unfukkingbelievable. Muller said we should impeach because he’s constrained by a memo. No wonder the president throws out executive immunities to everyone. A person who gets punched in the mouth repeatedly deserves to get their teeth knocked around.

We are the party of the battered electorate. I’m ashamed of most of these politicians and their shytty constituents.
 

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Did you hear about Corey and his stunt today? Does the Democrats appear to be ready to get serious on combating this administration?

A party that relied on a Republican to bail them out. Unfukkingbelievable. Muller said we should impeach because he’s constrained by a memo. No wonder the president throws out executive immunities to everyone. A person who gets punched in the mouth repeatedly deserves to get their teeth knocked around.

We are the party of the battered electorate. I’m ashamed of most of these politicians and their shytty constituents.
I don’t see any point to voting considering what our options are. It’s a choice between nazis and a bunch of cowards just sitting by while a fascist dictatorship is established. At this point the only hope we have is trump does something so over the top that it inspires the public take action themselves. Either that or hope he goes so over the top that the military turns on him, which would be a bigger shytshow than any of us could imagine.
 

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The real issue is that they impeach when the country isn't in agreement yet and they turn off independent voters, Trump uses it to campaign and Democrats indirectly help Trump win re-election. Trump would gloat about that for his entire 2nd term and be twice the a$$hole/dictator he is now.
 
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